Pistol ID Help Needed

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  1. Apr 16, 2019 #1

    jpc

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    Hello

    Need some help with the origin of this pistol

    Markings are CP K: K: POST

    Interesting Stampings on the lock as well

    Barrel is 8 1/2" and bore is .650

    No provision for rammer.

    take care and thanks

    jpc
     

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    TFoley

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    The complete absence of a ramrod has me stumped, and it was clearly made as a percussion pistol. With some care, as the witness lines on the barrel and breech plug show. I must admit to being totally stumped by this - no proof marks? A strange name/attribution? I'm sorry, jpc, i can't help you on this one.

    Best

    tac
     
  3. May 1, 2019 #3

    madsweeney

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    The hammer looks Austrian - Lorenz?. Austrians frequently did not have ramrod channels - rods were carried in the belt or backpack. I've seen that flower symbol before. Lot of people mistake it for Japanese Chrysanthemum. If I can find my notes maybe I can help with the symbols
     
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    jpc

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    Great and thanks for the information. I will search Austrian sites now looking for something similar.
    Your help with the symbols would be appreciated and take care

    jpc
     
  5. May 1, 2019 #5

    TFoley

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    I agree with you. As capandball demonstrates on one of his excellent Youtube movies, the Austro-Hungarian military DID have a habit of hanging their pistol ramrods around their neck on a lanyard, to prevent it getting lost in an affray. Can't see any AH proof marks on this though usually the huge spreadeagle and a pointed arrow.

    Research continues.........watch this space. :)
     
  6. Dec 3, 2019 #6

    jpc

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    My findings so far:


    KK POST would stand for Kaiserlich-und-Koniglich Post: Imperial and Royal Post Office. In that period a LOT of things were K-and-K, right down to postage stamps.

    Likely it would be a Coach piece for the protection of His Imperial Majesty's mails.
     
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  7. Dec 4, 2019 #7

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    As mentioned above, it looks similar to the various Belgium made pistols of the period. Although the checkering on the grip might preclude it's intended use for straight military. Some of these were in fact made without ramrods, preferring to carry the rod on a throng suspended around the neck so it would not get lost while on horseback. Here is an earlier Belgium pistol made without a ramrod provision similar to yours: DSC00205 (Medium).JPG
     

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