Pedersoli Tryon .45 opinions?

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    I bought a used .45 Pedersoli Tryon rifle, from Hyatt gun shop.

    It's not the Creedmore, it's the 1 in 48 twist .45.

    I did a search and I saw Zonie has or had one of these and I think it has the same trigger issue, where it cannot be fired unless the rear set trigger is set, but it's not clear if some were made this way and some not.

    This one is from 1992, someone added fiber optic sights which of course are coming off.

    I'm looking for opinions , I hope this shoots well with PRB because I was looking to use this as a PRB 100 yard target rifle.

    Mounting a diopter rear and globe front sight seems kind of overkill for a 100 yard round ball rifle ? Or is it?

    I had originally intended to just order a set of period 3/8" dovetail barrel mounted sights and use it as an 1840s era target piece. I'm not likely to take it past 200, more like 100. I always thought of tang sights and diopter sights as stuff for long range bullet rifles.
     
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    I put a short creedmore tang sight on my .50 cal Tryon with a swiss globe front sight. It makes those 100 yard shots easier for my old eyes. Never tried it out to 200 yards but did ring the gong (6" circle) at 150 several times with only a minor adjustment to the rear sight. I think your 1:48 45 caliber barrel will do fine with PRB, just don't push it too fast. Keep the loads to less than 85 grains.
     
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    What kind of tang sight did you put on your Tryon?
     
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    A Pedersoli mid length creedmoor tang sight.
     
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    Take the trigger out of the stock and see if it has the front trigger blade on it like you see in the picture below.
    If it does, it is a double set, double lever (phase or blade) type that should allow the lock to be set to full cock without first setting the rear trigger.
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    If it is a double lever (phase or blade) then either place a heavy cardboard shim between the trigger plate and the wood or, file down the top of the front triggers lever (blade).

    If you do put a "ladder type" long range tang sight on it you probably won't be able to shoot it with the ladder folded into the down position. I know on mine, folding it down puts the top of it just an inch or so in front of my eye. I've never tried to shoot it this way. I like my eyeball too much to risk it.
     
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    I will definitely take the trigger out and look.

    I'm on the fence with the sights, but those monstrosities that came on it have to go.
     
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    Can you let us know what type of trigger these have? I am looking into purchasing one soon.
     
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    Mine is a double set double, phase trigger.
     
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    Just bought one in .45 myself. New old stock from 1988, never been loaded. Trigger works set or unset.
     
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    Maybe my trigger is just installed wrong or I have a single phase for some reason. Haven't gotten around to taking it out yet.
     
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    I would think that the tang bolt has been tightened too much. How deep is the trigger plate set into the stock? You may have to put a shim under the trigger plate to lower the trigger lever to clear the sear. No matter what, you need to pull the trigger to determine the next step and to see if your trigger is working normally or if something is to be done.
     
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    I will get to it today after I get rid of my huge treadmill :)

    I honestly think my next muzzleloader will be a custom or semi custom built , having to tweak things on a $1200 target rifle is just absurd.
     
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    Pretty much par for the course. I don't think I know ANY serious shooter who does not tinker.
     
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    I get tinkering , changing sights, fluff and buffing locks etc but having to repair a poorly fitted rifle to get the lock to function is crazy.

    If one of my friends bought a $1200 "unmentionable " and the trigger didnt work as designed and he had to file and shim stuff I'd be like "you're crazy man " :)
     
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    Pardon my directness here, but...…. I would think $1200.00 (if that is what you paid) for a used, production Perdersoli is a bit much. At that price you might have been close to, or at being able to purchase a one off custom. You mentioned going with a custom or semi custom gun. Have you looked around ?
     
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    No I paid $800 used but my point is, these sell for $1200 new.

    It's status as used has no bearing on a possible mis fit trigger. Plus it's not heavily used or beat up , it doesn't even appear to have been disassembled.

    I'm going to use what I have for a while, and maybe think about putting a down payment on something from Romano or look into what those G. Godney custom rifles are like.
     
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    Plus I have a beautiful Missouri River Hawken on the way from a forum member plus this Tryon .45, which hopefully is an easy fix. On top of the new .69 1816 Springfield and used 1863 Springfield I have enough Pedersoli toys to play with and use as range shooters.

    I don't expect "custom" quality from mass produced guns but I expect them to work as designed.
     

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