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I bought this Guns of The West, paper cartridge forming kit a few weeks ago and after making up a bunch I have a few comments to share.

1. The kit is well thought out and set up with all the materials needed to make paper revolver cartridges.

2. When folded and cut both lengthwise and widthwise, each rolling paper actually provides enough to make four finished cartridges.

3. The Eras Gone, heeled bullet makes a very neat and easily assembled finished cartridge. However, I find that because of this bullet's longer length, I need to reduce the powder charge to 26 grains in order to seat below the chamber mouth or else apply what I consider excessive ram force. ( I get best accuracy with light to medium ram force. Just enough to clear the chamber mouth and uniformity of ram force is key to top accuracy )

4. Due to the spherical shape of the ram cavity in the Uberti Remington the higher ram force reshapes the nice pointy Eras Gone bullet into a round nose. After a hard seating it looks pretty much like a round ball. This reshaping does not occur in a Colt because of the Colt's conical ram cavity.

5. By forming a cartridge tube from a rolling paper cut only lengthwise, you get a much longer tube. From the longer tubes you can load Dragoon cartridges and also cartridges for the 200 grain Lee conical. Example shown still on the forming mandrel.

6. To make cartridges for the Lee bullet, I cut the tube off about 3/8" above the powder and fold the paper over, top to bottom , bottom to top and from each side. Then press down firmly with a dowel. Next remove the cartridge from the forming cylinder and apply a dab of Gorilla Glue Gel. Slightly moisten the Lee bullet tail with water or saliva and press it firmly onto the paper cartridge. The gel will set up instantly. These cartridges load and shoot great. An example is shown next to the Eras Gone cartridge in the photo.

A link to the Youtube video and where to purchase follows below.

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I bought this Guns of The West, paper cartridge forming kit a few weeks ago and after making up a bunch I have a few comments to share.

1. The kit is well thought out and set up with all the materials needed to make paper revolver cartridges.

2. When folded and cut both lengthwise and widthwise, each rolling paper actually provides enough to make four finished cartridges.

3. The Eras Gone, heeled bullet makes a very neat and easily assembled finished cartridge. However, I find that because of this bullet's longer length, I need to reduce the powder charge to 26 grains in order to seat below the chamber mouth or else apply what I consider excessive ram force. ( I get best accuracy with light to medium ram force. Just enough to clear the chamber mouth and uniformity of ram force is key to top accuracy )

4. Due to the spherical shape of the ram cavity in the Uberti Remington the higher ram force reshapes the nice pointy Eras Gone bullet into a round nose. After a hard seating it looks pretty much like a round ball. This reshaping does not occur in a Colt because of the Colt's conical ram cavity.

5. By forming a cartridge tube from a rolling paper cut only lengthwise, you get a much longer tube. From the longer tubes you can load Dragoon cartridges and also cartridges for the 200 grain Lee conical. Example shown still on the forming mandrel.

6. To make cartridges for the Lee bullet, I cut the tube off about 3/8" above the powder and fold the paper over, top to bottom , bottom to top and from each side. Then press down firmly with a dowel. Next remove the cartridge from the forming cylinder and apply a dab of Gorilla Glue Gel. Slightly moisten the Lee bullet tail with water or saliva and press it firmly onto the paper cartridge. The gel will set up instantly. These cartridges load and shoot great. An example is shown next to the Eras Gone cartridge in the photo.

A link to the Youtube video and where to purchase follows below.

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What are you using for paper?
Is there a place you can buy the treated stuff?
 
OP, thanks for starting this thread. I watched the video you linked and ordered the kit for .36 and .44. I made up some .44 paper cartridges in the past but the mandrels in this kit make it look easier to use.
 
I make my cartridges from coffee filter paper that I nitrated myself. Both the coffee filters and Potassium Nitrate were bought from the internet, eBay or Amazon I can't remember.

Nitrating the paper was simple, put some water into a tray, add the Potassium Nitrate until it won't dissolve any more. Then soak the filters in the solution and hang them out to dry. Leave the solution to evaporate and recover the excess Potassium Nitrate.
 
It is a simple process, now. A couple of years ago I had no idea how to or even what nitrated papers were. I use my coffee filter papers first though. Is there any harm in using used filters? I don't see where a little coffee stain can hurt anything.
 
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