Paper Cartridge alternative for single shots

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  1. Nov 11, 2019 at 12:05 AM #1

    Desperate Lee

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    While carrying on a conversation with Rat about our 50 cal hunters, I started kicking the idea around about a paper cartridge for my Mountain Pistol. I use paper cartridges in my ASP Bealls Remingtons. Gonna make some for my brasser 44 colts also only with a lighter load. My 44 Colt steel frame '51 will stay up there with the Remingtons.
    For the 50 cal Mountain pistol I will use .490 Hornady rb and 240 grn Hornady PA bullets. I made a mandrel with a id radius on one end and an od radius on the other end. The mandrel od is .490 dia same as the rb and only .020 to .025 smaller than the PA conicals that I measured at .505 to .510 on this batch.
    I am just playing now, but I used perm paper. I placed the ball in id radius and rolled the paper using the short side and got a couple rounds around the mandrel and glued one side full length. Started with paper a little over half way past ball center. I took a small piece of the paper and made an end cap over the ball and glued it on but not to the ball just the outside roll. Took the paper off slowly twisting it and set the tube with ball aside.
    Took the PA conical, using the end with the od radius, and basically did the same as I did on the rb. Now I have 2 cones with projectiles in the end sealed off. As a test I took my Lee dippers and I got well over 70+ grns of Goex FFF in each one. So now I will calculate length of cone for each charge I use and also take in consideration a grease cookie, or wad plus a card, and come up with a way to seal the powder end with only a single ply of paper.
    This is only for testing. I plan to nitrate some coffee filter material so I can get a better burn and hopefully get a clean barrel burn. What I want to do is just cram the load in without tearing the cartridge open and the pouring powder in first. I also plan on coating bullet end in my home made lube.
    Any and all comments are welcome and I have a few photos of my progress so far. Going to put this aside now because it is almost Dallas Cowboy kickoff time. This is fun but the little woman wants no distraction during her Cowboys.
    DL
     

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  2. Nov 11, 2019 at 12:54 AM #2

    Juice Jaws

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    Any and all comments are welcome and I have a few photos of my progress so far. Going to put this aside now because it is almost Dallas Cowboy kickoff time. This is fun but the little woman wants no distraction during her Cowboys.
    DL[/QUOTE]

    Was getting into your post until I found out you were a Cowboy fan, go Niner's 8-0. I know give me crap but only start watching them again after they got rid of the kneeler.
    But still looking forward to watching your post to see your test come out.
     
  3. Nov 11, 2019 at 1:04 AM #3

    Carbon 6

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    Interesting idea, can't wait to see how it patterns on target.
     
  4. Nov 11, 2019 at 1:33 AM #4

    Desperate Lee

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    I am thinking as a hunting situation. If i am sitting at a bench target shooting then i will just load the tried and true way. Powder, wad, projectile, then cap and fire. Hunting situation for follow up shot, blow down barrel, load, cap, and fire. Hopefully all ashes are extinguished before the secod round goes in. Right now Cowboys not playing too good but each to his own flavor.
    DL
     
  5. Nov 11, 2019 at 6:20 AM #5

    Carbon 6

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    Still interested, also interested in knowing if it hang fires.
     
  6. Nov 12, 2019 at 5:09 AM #6

    Desperate Lee

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    No undefeated teams now. Sorry Juice Jaws. Was a good damn game though.
    DL
     
  7. Nov 12, 2019 at 1:13 PM #7

    Grenadier1758

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    Not so sure that the cap fire will penetrate the paper next to the nipple. It doesn't take long to tear the cartridge open and dump powder paper and ball at once.
     
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