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Order from Sir William Johnson 1756-1757.

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Le Loup

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Coming to Trade By John Buxton.
A Specification of the Quality and Quantity of Goods
necessary to be sent from London for the Northern
Indian department.

20, pcs. of blue narrow Cord Strowds
10, ditto. of Black ditto.
5, ditto. of Aurora, or Crimson ditto.
5, ditto. of common Red ditto.
200, Rolls of different Colours Gartering
200, ps. Gimps Suitable to the Strouds
300, Blankets made to sample every Way
300, ditto. Large enough for Women
400, ditto. for men something Larger,
6, pcs. of deep purple Ratteen
6, pcs. of White or uncolour’d d”.
6, ds. of Walsh Cottons
200, Mens Ruffled Shirts Buttons
200, ditto. plain
100, ditto. Smaller size and plain
100, ditto. for little Boys
20, Hanks of light Colour’d Thread
6, pcs. of Yellow half thicks
4, ditto. of Blue d”.
30, pcs. Strip’d Callimincoes, lively Colours
20, pcs. of Callicoes also Lively Colours
20, pcs. embors’d Serges ditto.
10, pcs. of Yard wide Checks Red Stripes
40. pcs. of single Ribbands Viz’. 10. deep Red, 10. deep blue, 10. deep Green, & 10. Yellow,
30, doz”. of Womens Yarn Hose Clock’. & diff’. Colours.
20, d°. of Boys ditto & ditto.
20, d°. of Childrens ditto & ditto.
20, d°. Smallest Childrens Hose.
10, d°. of Womens Scarlet blue and Green Worsted Hose with Clocks,
100, Castor Hatts laced with a broad cheap Lace
50, ditto. with a better Lace
2, doz”. of small Jacks or Colours
100, Coats of blue Cloath Red Cuffs &c. Laced
100, Cheap Green Waste Coats with white Mett’. Buttons
400, Neat Fowling pieces Barrels 4 Feet Long Substantíal Stocks to have some distinguishing mark on the Barrel and Lock of each, about 2 0 / price,
400, ditto. a better kind distinguish’d as above.
200, ditto. 3 Feet Barrell for Boys. ditto. Wilson Maker
100, pcs. of middling Pistols with Ramrods
1000, Indian Cuthashes strong & of the Cymiter kind
500, Pipe Hatchets neat & Strong without Handles
50, doz. of Long Fish Knives with Box Handles and Sharp points
50, ditto. of Buckhorn Clasp Knives
20, doz. of Penknives Sorted
20, doz. of Womens Siczars,
20, Gro: of Indian Awl Blades,
50, B of Brass wire Sorted,
50, Brass Gorgets Gilt, with the Kings Arms
150, Hair Cocades,
50, Gro. of the smallest brass dutch Jews Harps
50, doz. Buckling Combs,
10, M of Needles Sorted
30, Gro. of Hawks Bells different Sizes
4, ditto. of Common Razors,
20, doz. of Looking Glasses at 8/
20, ditto. of ditto at 10/
100, Gro: of Bristol pipes
50, 11 of small white Beeds
500, Common Steel Tongs for Striking Fire
4, •M'”. of Good Gun powder, half in whole, & half in 1/2 Barrells
8, Tons of Leaden Barrs of 1-1/2 lbs Each
2, M of Goose Shott
2. ditto. of duck Shott
10, -M. of Good Flints
500, lbs. of VermiIIion in Casks well packd
20, 1bs of Verdegreace in Lump
100, doz. of Bullet Molds for the before Mention’d Arms,
Source: Sir William Johnson Papers, Volume II page 898-899
1757ad.
https://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/2017/02/order-from-sir-william-johnson-1756-1757.html
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Shorter guns for boys!!!!how many of those ended up in general use, how neat
Well I got a shorter rifle for my boys, & I can shoot it just fine. They are all grown up now but still use it.

There were boys tomahawks to:

The top one is one of two that were made for my boys, the lower one I traded for but I have no date on it.
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Johnson was on the edge of settlements he had a lot of Dutch farmers close by. I wonder how much of these goods were Indian and how much white.
 

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I was thinking of the clocked hose and penknives. Some of those things might be Indian only, but much seem to cross over and be as important any one in eighteenth century
 

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Let Loup,
I have enjoyed reading through these trade list. There is a list requested by Edmund Adkins in approximately the same time period for the Southern tribes. The request for trade guns with 4ft barrels for adults and the 3ft barrels for boys is the same. Most of the items are the same. One thing I noticed in Southern trade list is a fair number of check shirts. If you look at dome of the Congress of Picolta powder horns 1765....the artist depicts some Creeks wearing check shirts.
Great stuff
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"400, Neat Fowling pieces Barrels 4 Feet Long Substantíal Stocks to have some distinguishing mark on the Barrel and Lock of each, about 2 0 / price,
400, ditto. a better kind distinguish’d as above.
200, ditto. 3 Feet Barrell for Boys. ditto. Wilson Maker"

I find it extremely interesting the first two types of fowling pieces do not have a maker listed, but the last entry does. I wonder if all three types of arms were meant to be obtained from Richard Wilson and his name only mentioned at the end of the listed guns OR were the first two kinds of guns acceptable from other makers, but for the Boys' Guns, that Wilson was specified/desired?

For anyone who hasn't seen it, here is a great PDF on The Wilson Family of Gunmakers.
http://americansocietyofarmscollect...maker-to-the-Empire-1730-1832-B085_Bailey.pdf

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Can anyone tell me what "Common Steel Tongs for Striking Fire" might be?

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I can only assume it means fire steels/strikers. I have not heard the term tongs used in that respect, but it would hardly mean 500 blacksmith tongs. I would not say that this is another term used for a steel, more likely it is just a mistake.
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"400, Neat Fowling pieces Barrels 4 Feet Long Substantíal Stocks to have some distinguishing mark on the Barrel and Lock of each, about 2 0 / price,
400, ditto. a better kind distinguish’d as above.
200, ditto. 3 Feet Barrell for Boys. ditto. Wilson Maker"

I find it extremely interesting the first two types of fowling pieces do not have a maker listed, but the last entry does. I wonder if all three types of arms were meant to be obtained from Richard Wilson and his name only mentioned at the end of the listed guns OR were the first two kinds of guns acceptable from other makers, but for the Boys' Guns, that Wilson was specified/desired?

For anyone who hasn't seen it, here is a great PDF on The Wilson Family of Gunmakers.
http://americansocietyofarmscollect...maker-to-the-Empire-1730-1832-B085_Bailey.pdf

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I would say that the first two were to be supplied by any gunsmith who could make them for the price, & the last one had to be made by Wilson. Some noted gun makers actually had other gunsmiths make their guns for them, & if they past inspection then they got the gun maker's stamp. Obviously the Indians required a certain quality of gun, & they distinguished between guns with marks & guns without marks.
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Thanks Keith,

I was thinking along those lines, but wasn't sure if that was correct.

Though the Wilsons and especially Richard Wilson and his family going forward in time, were true gunmakers; there is no doubt with the huge number of guns he supplied to "The Trade" and to the British Military, that Richard was also an Agent or Factor who purchased barrels, locks and furniture from other shops in Birmingham as well had guns stocked by others. His name was probably put on a whole bunch of guns that he had little or no personal hand in making.

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