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ScottyB

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Hello!

I’ve been gifted this flintlock pistol from my grandmother. She was given to her in the 60’s while living in Plattsburgh, NY, and from I’ve been told was found in the banks of the Saranac River. It’s obviously not in good condition, but has become an important family piece of history. I’ve never been able to find any information about its maker. Would love any help!

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It appears to be an Ottoman/Turkish horse pistol. Mind you you, I'm only going by the writing on the embossed brass overlays. The 'figures' are more Seljuk/Mughal, though.

French? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Unlikely.
 

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It appears to be an Ottoman/Turkish horse pistol. Mind you you, I'm only going by the writing on the embossed brass overlays. The 'figures' are more Seljuk/Mughal, though.

French? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Unlikely.
Definitely been a melon scratcher. I don’t know if the story my grandmother got was wrong about being found in upstate New York, or there’s just something big I’m overlooking. The only confrontations in that area I’m aware of are the French and Indian War and the Battle of Plattsburgh during the war of 1812...
 

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Well, I truly don't recall any Ottoman soldiery taking part in those confrontations, let alone Shah Jehan and the boys on elephants. Maybe the story got mixed up somehow?
 

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Well, the story could be true as far as when and where found. Let's say the kids back then were playing with the old gun dad brought back from the war or a trip to the middle east. They left it lay and never came back for it and dad thought it was just a piece of junk or dad never could get an answer or didn't care it was gone, so there it was.

When I was a grade schooler my grandpa gave me an old damascus double twelve to play " cowboys and indians" with. He drove some wood into the chambers so I couldn't load a shell. It layed around the yard for years until it ended up who knows where on the farm. This would have been in the 50s.
 

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Hello!

I’ve been gifted this flintlock pistol from my grandmother. She was given to her in the 60’s while living in Plattsburgh, NY, and from I’ve been told was found in the banks of the Saranac River. It’s obviously not in good condition, but has become an important family piece of history. I’ve never been able to find any information about its maker. Would love any help!

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That looks like a Prussian 1731 Potsdam cavalry pistol.
 

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Hi Scotty

I very much agree with Post #2. And the possible story on Post #5 is believable.
Your pistol is what collectors commonly refer to as a Ottoman Kubur (horse) pistol. These pistols were made by the thousands, and continued in use up to at least 1880 throughout much of the Ottoman Empire. Unless made as a pair there are no two exactly alike. These pistols were made in every imaginable combination of styling/period features. But copying features from Mid-18th Century French pistols seemed especially popular. Brass/silver metal covering all/portion of the gun was popular, especially for Albanian customers. One often un-noticed feature with these pistols is that the trigger guards are usually nailed to the stocks instead of being fastened with screws. Hope this helps.
To give you a better idea, here are two pistols from this Region in good condition.

Rick
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