Old 1842 Springfield I guess please confirm?!

[420Homestead]

My nephew acquired this rifle from neighbor doing some work for him he knows that that I play with black powder rifles and pistols and this general shooting anything that makes a boom. So ask him his plans on and he had none so I gave him a couple bucks for it if anything it's almost like it's going to be a wall hanger I would believe it is it's only worth these days .
Car possibly for a dollar or two for to finish off somebody else's better conditional rifle to make it complete the lock on it has a good snap to it and function fine the nipples all rusted and filled and would possibly be scared to try to remove it and replace it could probably just snap on me also if it's a 1842 I do believe about 10 inches is going to cut off the barrel because it doesn't match the descriptions instead of being 47 the girls 37 in but here's a multitude pictures and sure many of you are much more knowledgeable than I am on this age of a muzzleloader thanks for any help and education that I will receive off it and if anybody is interested in purchases of this get a hold of me throw me offer! appreciate all you guys time and knowledge appreciate all your guys' time and knowledge.
Michael

 

[user 48679]

Welcome to the board ! !

Just my amateur opinion, the lockplate stamping looks more like the 1866 Springer.

 

[dd832]

I believe you have a Model 1816 Musket Type 2. The type 2 came out in 1822. The musket originally looked like this:



The type 2 trigger guard looked like this:


Your 1816 musket was converted to a percussion musket using the drum & nipple conversion as opposed to the Belgium conversion shown above. Your conversion uses a drum & nipple with the drum supported by the lock plate. The barrel was originally 42 inches long of .69 caliber.

I don't have any photos of the lock plate stamping with "Springfield" in the position yours has. It made have been added later by someone other than the armory.

later, Mike

 

[Grayrock Volunteer]

As others have pointed out it is a M1822. The maker is Henry Osborne of Springfield, Massachusetts. Osborne did not have a government contract for arms, rather, he made up muskets for private sale often using surplus or condemned components from the Springfield Armory.

 

[rhart]

Almost looks like a Charleville flintlock musket converted to caplock...

 

[hawkeye2]

Our muskets were based on the Charleville beginning with the 1795.

I had been thrown off by the unusual "SPRINGFIELD" stamp (looks to be double stamped) on the lock. Having been built by Osborne, whom I've never heard of, would explain that. I wonder if he did the conversion from flint or simply built it as percussion using earlier parts.

 

[wganz]

if you're interested in selling, send pix to [email protected] to see what David at Lodgewood Mfg. has to offer.

 

[ord sgt]

It is missing the federal eagle which would have been stamped behind the hammer.