I would like to offer a suggestion re the revisions to the posting rules. First, a few thoughts, some mine & some mentioned by others in this thread. To me a "vendor" is one who sells things that they may have made but more likely did not make. A "craftsman" is one who makes things that may or may not be offered for sale. "Vendors" are profit motivated, "craftsmen" may or may not be profit motivated. That said, unless someone posting in the craftsman section is unable or unwilling to answer questions about how they made an item (leading us to believe that they did not make it but are merely marketing it) or where the volume of items is extremely high, it is hard to distinguish the vendor from the craftsman. To distinguish the 'hobby craftsman' from the 'professional craftsman' is even harder - some hobby makers may have a higher volume than some part time pros. Which leads to a key question - why bother to distinguish if the item is posted by a hobby oriented craftsman or a professional? As long as the item is well done AND the poster responds to questions with good information re how it was made, documentation of the style or pattern, sources of materials, a valid forum member need has been met. I am happy to get useful advice from any member, pro or amateur. Perhaps rules that make clear that all items offered for sale must be posted in the classified, that all offers to buy or sell directly from one member to another be handled exclusively by PM. Suggestions for commercial sources not related to an individual member - an exchange something like "what did you use for stain" - " I used the dark walnut from Track of the Wolf" should be ok as I see them as informative posts but not self serving ads. Posts in the craftsman sub forum should not make reference to items listed in the classified nor vice versa. Posters that have a neat item to share but are not the maker nor trying to sell, should post the item in the photos subforum. Posters in the craftsman section should respond to reasonable "how to" questions regarding the items they post or be banned from that subforum. I hope that in the revised rules that you will let the "professionals" post as shared information is valuable to all of us. Thanks for your work to both maintain and improve the Forum.