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    It’s on TCM on demand this month. So little space to go on about everything wrong in this moviethought a few things stood out right, the copper ware, the long huts and bark covered conical lodges were right.
    Most all wrong but such a good movie.
     
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    I like the part about the head in the tote sack.
     
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    I remember this movie as a kid. It was a surprise for me when I read Widerness Empire when I was in the navy and learned Rodgers and his Rangers were a real company. Then disappointed to learn how much one of my favorite movies had gotten so much wrong.
    Still it’s a great movie with a great cast. Loved drums along the Mohawk too.
     
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    I tend to be critical of movies, today, but I like the movie because Hollywood tried to do what it could both with the novel adapted to the screen and with the costumes. For example the "bonnets" were actually more modern "glengarry" hats, but the costumers didn't know what the Scottish hats looked like, so they went to the Los Angeles Highland Games in '39 and asked. They got bad info but it was ...1939. Also the height of the Great Depression so limited budget = use guns that look antique.

    What "frosts my pumpkin" is when you have movies made after 1990 that are as inaccurate as a movie done a half-century prior, and is poorly conceived, indicating a) laziness on the part of the production staff and b) disdain for the audience. Especially when the true story of whatever they're portraying on the screen, from what we know, actually has a lot of suspense, drama, humor, and adventure. Why embellish or skimp?

    I'd like to see a remake of Gunga Din, but move the time period back to about 1860, use muzzle loaders, and bring out the bigotry of the situation, instead of casually touching on it with only one character.

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    Did any of you see the rubber bayonets wiggling back & forth when the village of St. Francis was attacked?
     
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    Yup, but for whatever reason I can overlook those details in movies I like. Rail against them when I don’t like the movie.
     
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    I actually won a copy of the book at a library contest back in the 1970's. Took me ten years to get around to reading it. My wife's uncle was a English Lit professor and saw the book on the table where I normally read and he went on and on about how well received the book was initially and then just fizzled into near obscurity. He said the same of some Hemingway, Steinbeck and a few others. Of course by this time I was reliving a nightmare of college and being called on for an answer when I hadn't finished the book yet. I never saw the movie until about 20 years ago. Did not seem anywhere nearly as good as the book.
     
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    Yup, the movie and book were two different anamals. Some books have a staying power and some don’t, some are classic some ain’t.
    Les Misarables bored me too tears, but it’s a classic. Three musketeers was bubblegum fiction when written but I bet since I was a teen not ever five years passed between rereadings.
    I enjoyed the book and the liberty taking movie
     
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    I recently read the book then watched the movie. The movie was disappointing after reading the book.
     
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    Yup, so with most booksmade in to a movie
     
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    Tom Selleck /Sam Elliott movies made from Louis LaMore books pretty much follow the book. Selleck is a stickler when it comes to correct fire arms for the movies he is in. CANT SPELL LAMORE
     
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    I suffered through Les Miserables when I was in tenth grade. A little too young to understand much of the meaning. But I read it all the way through. Never saw the play or the musical. There are other classics I can read over and over. Treasure Island is a great book and the movie from 1950 was pretty good. Same for the book Kidnapped and the Disney Movie. Both of which are sadly neglected by cable movie channels. I have probably read Treasure Island about 15 times. Each time I pick up something new. Long John was an expert at interpersonal politics.
     
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    Charlton Heston did star in a Tresure Island as Long John. The movie was directed by Frasser Heston. It followed the book pretty well. Disney’s kidnapped also did surprisingly well for a Disney movie. That said I really like Disney Twentythousand leagues Under the Sea. Not very much like the book, but, when I read the story I see James Mason and Kirk Douglas. Not so much Peter Lori.
     

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