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FOR SALE Navy Arms Miroku Charleville Musket

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Nov 1, 2018
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Yea, the heavy model 1763 was the prototype new model musket.

It went through a series of changes, the french really wanted a heavier musket that could stand up to abuse, like a brown bess. The earlier patterns of the 1717 series were very fragile. Locks failed, stocks often broke and parts became unstable in the stock because it was so slender.

One big issue with the 1717 series was the loading rod, it was a very skinny iron loading rod and when the soldiers returned it, it would often slip past th middle band, so a rammer guide was added to 1763 heavy model, sometimes referred to as a spring too. It was 12-14” long and made of sheet steel and riveted to the front band. While it was a good ideal, it was not practical, all they had to do was angle the lip of the front band upward and the rod guides itself. They ended up deleting it around 1764/65 and made another heavy model 1763 which very much closely resembles the miroku 1766, these are very rare, one is on display at Ft. Ticonderoga.


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Nov 1, 2018
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They vary a little but my pedersoli weighs about 11. I love it, but it's not light. The Miroku is much more like originals.

There’s a give and take between a pedersoli and miroku 1763/66.

A miroku that has never been altered, weights just slightly over 10 lbs. out of the factory, these had larger buttstocks and wrists. They used more wood because it was cheap birch dyed to look like walnut. It’s actually much closer to a 1763 heavy model charleville than most people think. An actual 1766/68 charleville musket weighed around 8-8.5 lbs. They sported very light weight barrels, slender stocks and a lock that very lean at 6 1/4 inches long.

The Pedersoli Charleville are built with a stronger stock and heavier barrel, with a large lock, this is why they’re so heavy. Pedersoli’s 1763/66 is a very good quality musket.

If you could take the miroku lock and put in on a pedersoli, it would really be a very good representation of a modified 1763.