Navy Arms 1863 Springfield maker?

[Stantheman86]

For about $500 I picked up this older Navy Arms import 1863 Springfield.

It doesn't have any markings , no "Made in Italy " Blackpowder Only, nothing.

It doesn't seem defarbed , its like the markings were never there, plus it does say Navy Arms by the tang screw.

All there is , is the number 2231 and a small Bullseye looking symbol.

It looks neat, has a lot of field/skirmish/reenactor wear with some nice "character" on the stock that gives it an experienced look. At first glance you would think it might be an original.

Someone added a rear sight blank with holes drilled in it, off center, in what looks like an attempt to correct for windage. Points to possible Skirmish use.

I would guess it's an early Pedersoli and not a Miroku, which is fine.

I'm gonna have to pop the lock off and clean it out, and get some of the surface rust off the bolster area but it looks like it will make a nice range shooter. The bore looks ok, some old dust and patches of hazy rust like this thing has been sitting in a closet for 20 years

 

[bang]

The stamping next to eagle looks like triple proofed, Liege house.
Are there any markings on other side?
Might be markings on bottom of barrel.

 

[Stantheman86]

I'll have to get a better picture of the other barrel markings.

I'm thinking I'll have to pull the barrel anyway to look for rust and to put a coat of Eezox on there

 

[Cowboy]

That small looking bullseye symbol is an early Pedersoli my friend.

I have a very early Pedersoli Kentucky Rifle that is stamped with the same symbol. Mine also has Pedersoli stamped on it as well.
The distributor on mine is Navy Arms. From what you described, your 1863 Springfield is an early Pedersoli.

Respectfully, Cowboy

 

[Artificer]

Cowboy,

Do you have an approximate date when the musket was made? The reason I ask is because it probably will help the OP when he needs to get repair parts.

When Navy Arms first brought out their M1863 with a One Piece American Walnut Stock, I was there at the NSSA Nationals when they debuted it. It was in the early/mid 80's, though I can't remember the exact year. I do know that EuroArms made those Springfields for Navy Arms, so only San Paolo parts will fit them.

We didn't work a whole lot of earlier Navy Arms Springfields with the two piece stocks, but it seems I recall the EuroArms parts fit them as well,though I could be wrong about that and of course we always checked to parts to ensure they fit.

Gus

 

[Cowboy]

Cowboy,

Do you have an approximate date when the musket was made? The reason I ask is because it probably will help the OP when he needs to get repair parts.

When Navy Arms first brought out their M1863 with a One Piece American Walnut Stock, I was there at the NSSA Nationals when they debuted it. It was in the early/mid 80's, though I can't remember the exact year. I do know that EuroArms made those Springfields for Navy Arms, so only San Paolo parts will fit them.

We didn't work a whole lot of earlier Navy Arms Springfields with the two piece stocks, but it seems I recall the EuroArms parts fit them as well,though I could be wrong about that and of course we always checked to parts to ensure they fit.

Gus

I pulled it out. AB=1976

Respectfully, Cowboy

 

[Artificer]

Thank you.

Gus

 

[Stantheman86]

Awesome info

The fit and finish seem pretty good, I think, if I'm not mistaken, that the current Pedersoli 1861s are made on the Euroarms machinery that Pedersoli bought when Euroarms went under.

Also, this looks a lot like those "Colt contract rifles" made by Pedersoli up until I think the mid 90s. Probably the same rifle. Just without the "Colt" stamps.

For $500 I'm happy with it as long as it shoots, I saved a few hundred vs a new Pedersoli 1861 and no one makes an 1863 anymore besides Chiappa, if you count that "Special Contract" rifle