FOR SALE Morse carbine from Rifle Shoppe kit

[rodneys]

I have a 50 caliber Morse carbine built from the Rifle Shoppe kit. It was built originally in South Carolina in 1864 I think they were about 1000 originally made. They are a couple of books out about them now. This one is a replica of the second model. It includes five brass cases and loading tools. It uses musket caps and a rubber washer on the back of the case. I have test fired it with a 370 grain .515 bullet. Jesse Melot The owner of the Rifle Shoppe.Sold the first one he built for $4800. Track of the wolf makes the cases at nine dollars each. Anyway I’m asking $4000 shipping included for this one with the loading tools and five cases. Jesse also got it NSSA approved.Not something for everyone but something you don’t see every day. Any questions just ask.

 

[Davey Boy]

I don't believe this is an item you can put up for sale on this forum.

better check the rules.

 

[rodneys]

Yes I did ask the moderator Angie and they said it was OK as long as it was originally made before 1865.

 

[William Lincoln]

It is a primitive firing system. it is not a modern style cartridge.
I think it should be allowed. It is an antique replica.

 

[muzzlediscipline]

Intriguing just about the time I think I have seen it all something new/old shows up.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Yes I did ask the moderator Angie and they said it was OK as long as it was originally made before 1865.

OK so it's more than that...
A) Made before 1865
B) Was accepted for use during ACW or earlier, or accepted by other government, someplace, (mass produced...a prototype doesn't get one there)
C) Uses an external ignition like a cap or a flint ....

And yes this one does....

OH as an aside...., the old saying "every rule has its exception"... well this looks like it might be called an inline, and thus would be the only inline that would qualify as an exception to the inline prohibition...

LD

 

[rodneys]

Thank you for the clarification. The original Morse case was a brass tube with a flange that had a heavy v shaped wire attached to the inside of a case in such a way as the musket cap fit on the sharp end of the V. Then a gutta percha washer fit over the flange of the musket to seal the back of the case. The firing pin is flat on the end almost a half inch in diameter to support the cap and the washer When fired.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

... well this looks like it might be called an inline, and thus would be the only inline that would qualify as an exception to the inline prohibition ...

... and you would be wrong. The 52-cal breech-loading 'inline' rifle by John M. Paul of Portland, Maine, of patent date 1811, was issued to US troops in a flintlock version in 1819.

 

[rodneys]

Very interesting that’s one that I was not aware of. In my digest of small arms patents it only goes back to 1836 do you Perhaps have a patent number. If not I’ll keep looking.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

... and you would be wrong. The 52-cal breech-loading 'inline' rifle by John M. Paul of Portland, Maine, of patent date 1811, was issued to US troops in a flintlock version in 1819.

UM..., technically..., an "inline" uses a cap or primer, or other ignition source that is modern ..., so an "inline flinter" is really an oxymoron, unless some company makes one to circumvent "flintlock only" regulations. I've seen what some have called an "inline" flintlock, perhaps that was the Paul Patent mechanism that I saw.., but that's really not an "inline" as it uses a flint.

LD

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Has this sold?

 

[nit wit]

... and you would be wrong. The 52-cal breech-loading 'inline' rifle by John M. Paul of Portland, Maine, of patent date 1811, was issued to US troops in a flintlock version in 1819.

Was that a Hall from Mechanic Falls Maine?
NW

 

[rodneys]

Has this sold?

 

[rodneys]

No check with TOTW

 

[Sound Tribe]

This is awesome, I wish I could afford it, but thank you for bringing it to my attention and knowing it is allowed here