I haven’t used it yet on the Pietta. The issue I have with the rifle is that from the factory 3 lands of the rifling have stuff in them that will not come clean. But it’s on a rifle that can’t be mentioned in this forum.Why do you want to clean the moly out? It is a lubricant and "slicks" up the bore most likely filling the pores of the metal making cleaning easier.
I used a type moly coated bullets we don't talk about here in a type of gun we don't talk about here and it made the barrel slicker than a mashed grape on a terrazzo floor. Cleaning up was a snap, patches black as the core of the pit, but completely fouling clean.
It ain't broke don't fix it.
Welp I ended up ordering round balls .454 from muzzleloader.com they have a sale no shipping on ammo.
There is a cap shortage I use whatever I can find. I make my own caps but it is slow going. I'm using small pistol primers in my Remington. sooner or later things will get back to normal.Welp I ended up ordering round balls .454 from muzzleloader.com they have a sale no shipping on ammo.
still searching for caps. Beings that I am a newbie I would feel the most comfortable with Remington no 10 as that is the recommendation.
It is a suppository gun thing Precision Bullets the "Black Bullet"I haven’t used it yet on the Pietta. The issue I have with the rifle is that from the factory 3 lands of the rifling have stuff in them that will not come clean. But it’s on a rifle that can’t be mentioned in this forum.
I have not received the Pietta yet it’s on it’s way! I have never heard of moly coated bullets I have heard of the graphite ones though.
because I don’t know what I’m doing and apparently I have tons of money I went ahead and ordered .451 as well as .454 balls hopefully they’ll both work.Pietta recommends .451 balls for there 44cal guns .454 also work fine. Uberti recommends .454. My Uberti walker needs .457 balls while .454 balls fit My Uberti Dragoon fine.
You couldn’t be more right about the honeymoon phase!You are good they should both should work. You are in the honeymoon stage with your gun. Just shoot it get acquainted with it. Later on, shoot from a rest using an adjustable powder measure work up a load your gun likes just shoot for groups after you work up your load you can open up your rear sight and adjust your point of impact. Have fun it is a great hobby. When working up your load try both balls and see what one your gun likes best.
That's because we love you, we're not like the rest!Awesome tips and tricks there as well going to have a look at that spring as soon as she comes in!
And I agree looks like the right on top of us partner best regulate. I tell you this whole side of historicalish Black powder culture seems a lot more fun then modern in line! You guys are awesome!
I believe you are making things more complex than necessary so hopefully these powder smoke stained fingers will give you some ideas.Ok I think I found my mistakes and since It’s an Italian Pieta I have to use polenta instead of cornmeal the corn meal is only for American guns.
unfortunately triple seven is the only game in town right now. With it burning hotter and with this being a brass gun that means I have to have a light load I doubt that the bullet will seat all the way with the 12 grain load.
That gap Between powder and bullet I feel it’s going to be more dangerous than not using a wad and filler. Also I don’t need to bring the bullet all the way up to the arbor I just want a little peace of mind with the bullet will seat firmly on something solid.
Plan is Load the powder Put a piece of paper towel over that, tamp the power and the wad lightly with an oak dowel. Add filler then bullet and use the guns “rod” to seat the bullet.
The idea here is the paper will keep the powder from mixing with the Inert cornmeal Weakening the charge. It will however provide a nice raised base of powder in which to seat the bullet.
The lubrication will be a caulking on top of the bullet a beeswax mixed with olive oil.
I’ve been reading that many competition black powder shooters use some type of filler material to bring ball up to the arbor.
For my purpose I really don’t need that much filler for the bullet to come forward all the way up to on the arbor I just want a good solid base to seat the bullet.
pistol will be here Monday still looking for number 10 caps going to the range with the daughter anyway gonna take some air rifles And other rifle they cannot be mentioned.
I trust your powder stained hands my friend and you are right I tend to overthink things. Of most importance as you said is no air between charge and ball. That’s what worried me about using a 12 grain charge in the brass 1851.I believe you are making things more complex than necessary so hopefully these powder smoke stained fingers will give you some ideas.
It may not be the BEST way, but it is MY way and works well for me covering many years with many different Colt style revolvers..
First, if you can find either American Pioneer Powder, Jim Shokey's Gold ,or Alliant Black MZ (which are all the same product under different labels) it is a closer replica of real Black Gun Powder and is much less corrosive than Pyrodex or possibly 777.
Instead of a wad of paper use a wad cut with a wad cutter (Track of the Wolf) of your caliber out of thin cardboard or better yet use a lubricating wad (Wonder Wad, TOW) over the powder and under the ball. The lubrication is for keeping the powder fouling soft not for lead fouling.
Always measure powder, either replica or original, by VOLUME not on a scale. A 50 grain powder measure from good old TOW is a handy thing to have.
Having the ball level with the chamber mouth inmy opinion is not that important unless perhaps you are precision target shooting.
My Pietta Marshal .44 caliber using a .451" ball, lube wad,over 25 grains of FFFg GOEX is shooting playing card size groups off hand at 10 yards. and the ball is almost a ball diameter down from the chamber mouth.
Most important is not to leave an air space between the powder and the ball !!
Black powder needs a little bit of compression to burn properly. The APP type powders want NO compression.
I cannot speak about 777 or Pyrodex but it would be prudent to check with the maker about compressing the powder charge.
Caveat...I am not sponsored or supported by Track of the Wolf in any way. I am just a satisfied customer since the Wolf was a puppy. They are just a good source of excellent quality equipment for our hobby.