I was in contact with MIddlesex for a long land Brown Bess Until I saw some pictures of one and then an actual one at a reinactment in NJ. I’ve seen too many Indian made guns to know that I just don’t like them. The Locks are chunky, the Sprngs dont look right, the wood looks like table furntiure wood and the Brass parts are very chunky too. The barrel also seemed very heavy for a long land, its noticeably thick for a .75 gun making the weight around 11 lbs. Otherwise the owner was very nice.Gentlemen:
My advice, go somewhere else. If MVTC is the only place that carries the item you want, wait until someone else carries the item you want or have someone you trust make it for you.
Ordered a 'in stock' firearm from MVTC in early Nov. Although I do understand that it takes MVTC time to tune and prep one of the firearms they get from India, I figured six to eight weeks should be enough. After all, it was shown as 'in stock' when I paid for it. My assumptions were completely wrong. After eight weeks, it became apparent to me that I would not receive the item within several years, if at all.
You can ask the owner of MVTC any question you want and he will refer you to his 'Terms and Conditions' that he will emphasized YOU SIGNED. When you read his Terms and Conditions you see 'most items are sent out within four to six weeks, but some take longer -- much longer.' He will refer you to his 'To Do' list as the only means he will use to communicate with you about the status of your order.
Before you even think about sending him your money, you better look at his 'To Do' list first. Note he does not date anything. Then understand that no matter what you ordered, you will be put on the end of his list. I was over 160 on his list when I made my order. He indicates that he is working on a firearm if he notes "Waiting for Prep". In the nine weeks I waited, I gained six spots on his list. All six were from guys who apparently cancelled their orders. He claims he tries to update his list (only means of communicating status with his customers) once a week but it may be longer, much longer. About every three or four weeks he will update his list and if you want to complain about his lack of communications, he openly says he will 'delete your e-mail with no response'.
In the nine weeks I was on his list, there was only one firearm he claims that he actually completed. Do the math. His own work list was showing was that I would be waiting about six or seven years before he got to my firearm, that was 'In Stock' when I paid for it.
I cancelled my order, with a snide comment from the owner of MVTC, and about the only thing I can say positive about it is that I wasn't charged the 20% cancellation fee. Not because it is illegal either. MVTC has the legal right to charge you that money if they want.
Maybe this guy was top of his game many years ago. Maybe he can turn a mediocre Indian made muzzle loader into a work of art. Not sure because in the nine weeks he had my money, he only completed one firearm for someone.
The long land at Middlesex is a good working musket. In regards to its overall presentation and workmanship I think its more worthwhile to get a better gun or purchase a kit and build one.I have watched this thread for quite some time and others discussing Middlesex Village. I have to add my 2 cents. Our Unit has purchased close to a dozen muskets from them and except for a few instances we have had NO issues. I think that unless you spend 1500.00 on a high end musket you should expect to have a few issues. We are very satisfied with what we have received. As to the wait......Our first purchases only took 3-4 months and now it takes longer. That could very easily mean more and more people want their product and that product may be a descent musket. Again, my 2 cents.