Matchlock Pistols did they exist?

[tenngun]

The thing is that the idea of pistol/shoulder gun didn't exist at the time matchlocks were in vogue. Short gun held in one hand vs long gun held in one or two hands vs on for gun belt in two hands only. Stock shapes were just starting to evolve. In Italy short one hand guns were made with very short shoulder shaped stocks, they were far too short to shoulder. We make comparisons because it's like s o and so, we can do that with dragons and paratroopers similar concept but whole different animal.

 

[Karl Helweg]

This older thread might have some useful information: http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/290560/fromsearch/1/tp/1/

In general, it seems that a lot more Indian and Japanese matchlock pistols have survived than European matchlock pistols.

 

[robinghewitt]

16th century shield guns perhaps. They were short barreled and the one in the Tower of London collection is a matchlock.

 

[Karl Helweg]

16th century shield guns perhaps. They were short barreled and the one in the Tower of London collection is a matchlock.

Squire Robin - Can you post pictures of this matchlock shield gun? I am very curious now.

 

[robinghewitt]

Not my image, may not last...

 

[Wes/Tex]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=91656&stc=1
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ac/ab/96/acab96ea51f9c316bf2062c2e9f30e61.jpg
https://aninterestingthought.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/flintlock-pistol.jpg
http://www.thomasdelmar.com/Catalogues/as081210/lot0334-0.jpg
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j367/johnb19/Tower/MatchlockPistolToy3_800x394_zps005e3a43.jpg

In a word, yes! :wink:

 

[Karl Helweg]

Thanks for posting these matchlocks. This very crude cast matchlock with a simple external mechanism is particularly interesting since the Tower claims that many have been found. Possibly the first "Saturday night special."

 

[Wes/Tex]

I should have noted the last all brass one was actually considered a toy pistol. It was just too cute not to add to the lot! :wink:

 

[Karl Helweg]

Finding some with burst barrels makes it sound like they were meant to be fired if they could be fired. At the very least toys tend to mimic something real. I would like to see the dimensions.

 

[Karl Helweg]

1540 Venetian matchlock revolver: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=92799&...;

 

[toot]

what is a PETRONEL?

 

[Pukka Bundook]

Toot,
Your Q is somewhat addressed on another thread, but basically a matchlock with a barrel of medium to long form, with a sharply curved stock.
Various theories have been put forward as to how they were held. Never tried one myself, (yet)
Re pistols;
For obvious reasons, the shield pistols of Henry V111, (were there not 18 of them originally?) were breech-loaders.

Karl,

Lovely to see parts of some of "Matchlock's" old photos and threads here! He knew more than any man on this subject.

Richard.

 

[robinghewitt]

Some bod is currently making a supersonic jet powered car to take the land speed record. When he has finished with it I think it will probably go to a collector and then a museum.
When James T Kirk visits that museum, might he assume we all had supersonic jet powered cars?
Perhaps match lock pistols create the same illusion

 

[Rockvillerich]

Google "matchlock pistol", select images, and you can see a ton of them.

 

[Pukka Bundook]

But Very few European ones, Rock.

Best, Richard.

 

[toot]

PUKKA BUNDOOK, thank you didn't see the reply on another site to my question.

 

[hyuzu]

As others have mentioned here, the Japanese made matchlock pistols into the 19th century. There is even a company in Spain that makes shootable reproduction tanzutsus: https://www.avancargas-arsa.com/paginas/armas/tanzutsu.htm

I don't know so much about multi-barreled examples from Japan, although I know they existed (albeit fairly rare compared to single-shot ones). Occasional photos pop up online, e.g. here: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/9a/08/d39a08d69a70a389fd84a2910726202e.jpg

 

[Canute Rex]

私はあなたが何を考えているか知っています。彼は3発を撃ったのか、2発しか発射しなかったのか
(Japanese for "I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire three shots, or only two?'"

 

[hyuzu]

A few examples of matchlock handguns from India:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...x-Antique_Indian_matchlock_torador_pistol.jpg

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18339

If you google "matchlock tamancha" there are pictures of other examples.

By the way, as long as we're on the subject of multi-shot matchlocks from the last two posts, here is a revolving long-gun from India: http://www.mandarinmansion.com/indian-revolving-matchlock-musket

 

[LEE TIMMINS]

Just came across a reference to quote, "possible Jamestown matchlock pistol", on another site. Have entered various search terms in search engine and drawn a blank (no pun intended). Is anyone aware as to if said item actually exists please?