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Does the flintlock Lyman Trade Rifle use the same lock as the flintlock Great Plains Rifle?
the lock on the deer stalker looks the same as the great plains.. might use the same lock on all 3 guns..
That's because the lock is working like it should. There is a fly in the lock to keep it from engaging halfcock and damaging it when you fire the lock. All locks that have set triggers should have this, and it is a sign of a better lock.I dont know about interchange, but my Trade Rifle lock fires really well. I cant figure out why I cant go from full cock to half cock without opening the pan and going all the way down and back up...... Makes no sense! My Traditions lock does it flawlessly.
That is generally true. I have 4 rifles with set triggers that do not have a fly in the lock. The triggers have to be set before the gun can be brought to full cock.That's because the lock is working like it should. There is a fly in the lock to keep it from engaging halfcock and damaging it when you fire the lock. All locks that have set triggers should have this, and it is a sign of a better lock.
That sort of implies that there may be an interference, perhaps intended by the builder, between the trigger lever and the sear to limit the rifle to use of the set trigger only. But I would want such a rifle to have a fly in the tumbler.That is generally true. I have 4 rifles with set triggers that do not have a fly in the lock. The triggers have to be set before the gun can be brought to full cock.
These are single phase set triggers, not like the more common double phase set triggers like on T/C guns and others.I have one older (percussion) rifle that has a set trigger. There is no half cock notch in the lock, but the triggers are set up so that the triggers must be set before the lock can be brought to full cock as a "safety" measure. Here along the western bank of the Mississippi River, rifles built for the Over-the-Log, Table Shoots or Chunk Gun Shoots did not have half cock notches. Those rifles were built specifically for the target competition and not used for hunting. They were only brought to full cock when in position on the rest and the percussion cap was ready to be placed on the nipple.
The fly in the tumbler is a design feature to prevent the sear from entering the half cock notch as the hammer is driven forward by the full force of the mainspring.
That sort of implies that there may be an interference, perhaps intended by the builder, between the trigger lever and the sear to limit the rifle to use of the set trigger only. But I would want such a rifle to have a fly in the tumbler.
I would be careful with that Traditions gun.I dont know about interchange, but my Trade Rifle lock fires really well. I cant figure out why I cant go from full cock to half cock without opening the pan and going all the way down and back up...... Makes no sense! My Traditions lock does it flawlessly.
Thank you.Yes, all Lyman locks, and barrels are the same on all of their 1:48: rifles. Only the barrel length varies.
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