Looking for clarity.

[colt_bamc]

Hi all, I have a question, I have seen the discussion about the description of an in line black powder rifle. I am not selling anything and believe in the use of traditional side lock front loaders. This is for my info only. I have among my collection a TC Texas Scout. Octagon barrel. Closed breach front loader firing a number 11 percussion cap. The hammer and nipple are in the center rear of the rifle, but the breach is sealed. Is this considered and inline? Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[rafterob]

That would fall under the category of a box lock. I believe Wesson Rifles would be similar. I had never seen that TC model, interesting. Falls under the umbrella of this forum.

 

[Brokennock]

Interesting question. I'm not sure how that falls in regards to our rules. But, I feel it is probably outside them as I'm not sure it represents anything within the given time period of the forum.

As an aside, when I 1st became interested in muzzleloaders,,, I really wanted one of those badly. Then I caught the longrifle bug, then the flintlock, then the smoothbore bug,,,, then worst of all,,, the period correct bug..... and the Texas Scout was forgotten.

 

[user 48679]

There was a discussion/thread about them on our sister forum:

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/threads/the-mighty-tc-scout.35093/

 

[ppg1949]

IMO, it’s an in-line, despite looking like an old west type of gun. The moderators need to jump in.

 

[colt_bamc]

IMO, it’s an in-line, despite looking like an old west type of gun. The moderators need to jump in.

I kind of thought it might be considered one, like one of the first, a hybrid so to speak. It is a super gun for sure, like a tank! I've just always wondered what it is considered. I appreciate the input, yes, maybe the moderators can shed some light.

 

[colt_bamc]

That would fall under the category of a box lock. I believe Wesson Rifles would be similar. I had never seen that TC model, interesting. Falls under the umbrella of this forum.

 

[waksupi]

Go to your Fish & Game, get an opinion there, and GET IT IN WRITING!, assuming it is deemed legal. Some game wardens are as ignorant about muzzle loaders as legislators are, and it helps to have an arrow like that in your quiver.

 

[QuinnTheEskimo]

I think anything with the ignition system “in line” with the bore is by definition an in-line and not allowed here.

 

[colt_bamc]

Go to your Fish & Game, get an opinion there, and GET IT IN WRITING!, assuming it is deemed legal. Some game wardens are as ignorant about muzzle loaders as legislators are, and it helps to have an arrow like that in your quiver.

Its legal regardless of hunting season,( at least where I live) Michigan has ruined the traditional muzzIe loading season with the shotgun primer guns, and the other cartridge guns they allow now. Its not about getting back to basics anymore unfortunately, its about cash flow. I was just asking a question about what it was clasified as just because I am curious. I hunt with my sidelock primarily. The thompson is my back up,, and a loaner for quests. I appreciate your feedback. I'm enjoying this forum.

 

[Dale Allen Raby]

I remember those. Think they made a pistol as well that used the same action. I'd guess it is an inline gun, but so are percussion revolvers, technically speaking and those are allowed on the forum.

They were generally reliable little carbines... which is what they were looking for in those days I guess, but I never really liked them. They just didn't "look" right.

 

[colt_bamc]

I remember those. Think they made a pistol as well that used the same action. I'd guess it is an inline gun, but so are percussion revolvers, technically speaking and those are allowed on the forum.

They were generally reliable little carbines... which is what they were looking for in those days I guess, but I never really liked them. They just didn't "look" right.

Yes, you are right, the pistol looks the same. It does more resemble a lever action without the lever. And yes, there is nothing that comes close to a sidelock when it comes to appearance. They are pure artwork. I just bought a kentucky rifle kit with a beautiful wood grain,and can't wait to collect all the furniture to make it what I've always wanted.

 

[Grenadier1758]

What we are looking is a modern albeit muzzloading rifle. We need to have the moderators weigh in.

 

[FishDFly]

About time.

 

[TNTraveler]

I would consider it an inline as well, but if its allowed on here I have two of them a rifle and a pistol I need to sell

 

[Grenadier1758]

It is my opinion that @colt_bamc's rifle is a design that does not fit in with the Forum's pre 1865 cut-off for rifle designs. I would think that rifle really belongs on the sister site, Modern Muzzleloading. Yes, I know we talk about the Ruger Old Army Revolver which is a contemporary design in the full function of the traditional cap and ball revolvers.

 

[longcruise]

It's an inline I think

Tc marketed it hyped as being much like your 30-30 lever gun.

 

[Art Caputo]

The “States” regulations can vary as far as use for hunting, but by definition it would be, IMO, an “in-line” muzzleloader.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The TC Scout is a Tingle Action Inline, and is not for discussion on this forum.

Tingle pistol of the 1960's

TC Scout Pistol

TC Scout Carbine

LD