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check out Dutch Schoultz' method ... best non shooting accessory you can buy :)
 

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I also use a small spotting scope, deerstalkert. But at 50 yards I can't see holes much smaller than .45 even with that! :doh:

I've had retinal surgery and still can't see worth a hoot anymore. So you can imagine how bad my dominant eye was before the surgery. Now I shoot mostly by sense of smell. ;)
Agree, I use 12x50 binoculars. What really helps is I make my own shot-n-see targets. very cost effective considering what they want at the sporting goods store.
 

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100 yards is long range shooting with a round ball and open sights while hunting. All the rest of the shooting is target shooting with specialized rifles made for that purpose. They are two different things entirely. I don't remember ever shooting over 100 yards except for a moose with an unmentionable. Most of the deer were under 50 yards. I've been re-reading my books by Hanson and Baird. It's been interesting. I couldn't figure out why I was using 120 grains in my 54 some 40 years ago. It's because Hanson and Baird said that's what the mountain men often used and if we didn't do the same we probably wore lace panties under our buckskins. These days, I like 50 grains a whole lot better and I'd bet that it will kill a 50 yard deer just as dead as a 120 grain load and I still don't wear no lace panties.
 
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I also use a small spotting scope, deerstalkert. But at 50 yards I can't see holes much smaller than .45 even with that! :doh:

I've had retinal surgery and still can't see worth a hoot anymore. So you can imagine how bad my dominant eye was before the surgery. Now I shoot mostly by sense of smell. ;)
My wife Joan has had that done Yesterday she was driving at 40 mph in the motorways middle lane I said get in the left lane,or do 50mph at least " I feel happier here ". , she's 75 And it's a Z3 BMW I realy want to see how well a reproduction flintlock can shoot with a good scope, interesting exercise thinking outside the box
 

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After reading posts about long range shooting, I thought I would give it a try. This a 3 shot group at 100 yards. Found it most difficult to see the target. Shooting my .54 cap hawken, GM barrel, with 100 grains gfafs 3f, .018 patch, 530 ball. Open sights, not great but I did hit the paper.
That's a darned sight better than I can do. Nice shooting. :thumb:
 

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100 yards is long range shooting with a round ball and open sights while hunting. All the rest of the shooting is target shooting with specialized rifles made for that purpose. They are two different things entirely. I don't remember ever shooting over 100 yards except for a moose with an unmentionable. Most of the deer were under 50 yards. I've been re-reading my books by Hanson and Baird. It's been interesting. I couldn't figure out why I was using 120 grains in my 54 some 40 years ago. It's because Hanson and Baird said that's what the mountain men often used and if we didn't do the same we probably wore lace panties under our buckskins. These days, I like 50 grains a whole lot better and I'd bet that it will kill a 50 yard deer just as dead as a 120 grain load and I still don't wear no lace panties.
For hunting Deer, Elk, Moose, etc., I would have thought mini or maxie balls would be more appropriate than a patched round ball. (I know, minnie got no balls....)
 

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For hunting Deer, Elk, Moose, etc., I would have thought mini or maxie balls would be more appropriate than a patched round ball. (I know, minnie got no balls....)
PRB of 50 cal and up is plenty for deer within 100 yards. They aren't that big or tough. Elk are a lot tougher.

As for long range shooting, with a high-powered unmentionable and a big honking scope, I can make 300 yard shots on game. With open sights, well... I have 20/200 vision without contacts and my eyes don't work together. With an adjusted prescription and a lot of work I shoot fairly well with my muzzleloader to 75 yards and mostly stay on paper at 100. I've had poor vision all my life, so I am just happy I can make 75 yard shots on deer and expect to drop it. That said, I tend to hunt with 54 and 58 calibers. A bigger bore means that what would otherwise be a marginal hit is generally a killer. A 54 round ball with 110 grains of powder last fall made a texas heart shot a for sure kill shot.
 
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