lollipop tang

[StarnesRowan]

Just wondering does anyone know when the first lollipop tangs on longrifles strted to pop up.

 

[user 48679]

According to Ned Roberts' The Muzzleloading Cap Lock Rifle, improvements over the barrel-mounted older open sights didn't occur until several years after the percussion cap came into being.

The tang peep sights came into use about 1840 {+/-).

Just like what we do today, when a new doodad appears, some folks retro-fitted their older longrifle with one, especially if they were a competition target shooter.

 

[hawkeye2]

I don't think he's asking about sights.

 

[Bob McBride]

Good question. Late. 1820ish I would guess but I’d like to know as well.

 

[Nameless Hunter]

Was it just a SMR thing or elsewhere as well?

 

[StarnesRowan]

in my simple mind I was thinking since the SMR started developing around 1778 the long tang proberly deveoped around 1780

 

[Bob McBride]

in my simple mind I was thinking since the SMR started developing around 1778 the long tang proberly deveoped around 1780

That very well could be right but of course like anything else what is generally called an SMR was a work in progress starting about then but didn't find its sort of 'golden age form' until later. As an example the Kibler SMR is a pretty nice copy of a NC Whitson Rifle c1840 or even later. I think Jim described the architecture as 'late second quarter to early second half of the 19th century. Lollipop tangs and over the comb tangs were fairly well developed norms for these guns, which insinuates late period, but like I said, I'm not certain. I'll ask some of the Tennessee rifle experts over on ALR and get back.

 

[StarnesRowan]

The reason that was said is because there is a family hairloom Rowan longrifle with a lollipop tang that has colonial style disgin large flat butt plate, and germainc style lock anf trigger gaurd

 

[Bob McBride]

The reason that was said is because there is a family hairloom Rowan longrifle with a lollipop tang that has colonial style disgin large flat butt plate, and germainc style lock anf trigger gaurd

Oh, I see. Not having had my third cup of Joe, I was answering, "When did the lollipop tang first start being used as a regular design element in the SMR". {off to the Keureg for another cupa}

 

[Pete G]

....about the time that Satan started cavorting around the Southern mountains.