Lock ID and parts help please

[hovercat]

I acquired a flintlock rifle a while ago at a gun show. The trigger was extremely light but for the price I thought I could adjust it and start shooting black powder for cheap. However, after taking it apart, my problems began.
I know the problem, the nose or spur on the enclosed part is broken. But I cannot positively identify the lock manufacturer or model as there are no markings at all.
Please could one of the experts here help with the lock type and a parts source? Thank you.

 

[rich pierce]

Pictures are too dark to tell

 

[hawkeye2]

Yup, suggest you edit them before posting including turning them right side up. It's the work of a few seconds and your computer has everything you need to do it. Your photos are clear and focused and including the tape is a good idea, they just need a little work.

 

[hovercat]

Thank you for trying. Here are some hopefully better photos, done on my phone but I hope they will suffice. Clouds are gone and bright Texas sunshine.

 

[rich pierce]

Shoot on a dark background and details will be visible

 

[hovercat]

Thank you, new to this. New photos.

 

[rich pierce]

Ive seen hundreds but not this short nosed lock. It looks like there is a touchmark above the mainspring on the plate. If so can you make out what it is?

 

[hawkeye2]

Photos are much better! Back in the '70s Dixie Gun Works offered a number of locks many of which probably were imported. They were considered good and serviceable for their day. I wonder if this might not be one of them and if so they don't have any parts for them that I'm aware of. A vintage Dixie catalog might help identify it. You might try contacting the major lock manufacturers to see if they could repair it, could be simpler than trying to fit another lock.

 

[EC121]

I saw a couple of the Dixie locks in their 2014 catalog with that square ended sear bar. You may get lucky.

 

[hovercat]

I stripped it and brass brushed with Hoppes 9. I can only find tool marks.

 

[hawkeye2]

I could be wrong but in the photo of the inside of the plate it looks like someone welded a tail on the plate and finished it off. Could they have added a tail to what had been a round tailed lock? If so it's a nice job but would just make it harder to identify.

 

[hovercat]

Your reply made me take a closer look, and you are correct. And they used 2 pieces to do it. A few swipes on an oil stone really brought it out. The three stripes on the opposite side are hand filed, also.

 

[hawkeye2]

They might have served to help disguise the weld as well as being decorative. I'm still leaning toward it having been one of Dixie's offerings.

 

[Phil Coffins]

I would be surprised if you can find a sear that you could just screw in and use. If you care to send the complete lock to me I’d make and fit one for you. It would cost postage.

 

[hovercat]

I would be surprised if you can find a sear that you could just screw in and use. If you care to send the complete lock to me I’d make and fit one for you. It would cost postage.

Thank you for the kind offer! I hesitate to impose upon you so much, but if I cannot locate a part I can modify to suit, I will contact you. Your generosity is much appreciated!

 

[Zonie]

I just looked thru over a dozen flintlocks that Dixie offered in their 1980 and 1987 catalog and I didn't see the lock in question.

I ignored the shape of the tail of the lockplate and looked for a lock with a squared off Germanic shaped pan, a roller frizzen and a squarely shaped notch on the lockplate in front of the frizzen. I saw a few locks that had one of these features but not all of them together at the same time.
I also looked for locks which had a tumbler bridle without a hole thru it to support the outer end of the tumbler like this lock seems to have.
In the locks Dixie shows that do have a bridle, the bridle supports the tumbler like it should.
Notice in the picture below, there isn't anything on the bridle to support the radial loads of the mainspring on the tumbler. It is only serving to keep the tumbler from moving sideways and provides a surface for the sear screw to bear against.

Anyway, it would be a good idea to E-Mail Dixie Gunworks and send them the photos of the lock asking them if they have a sear that might be used on it.
They might recognize the lock as something they once sold and they might have a few spare parts left from it that they would sell.

 

[DickS]

Bridle and tumbler without an axle are characteristic of the old Dixie lock. Frizzen spring sure looks like one as well.