Loads in a original rem 1858

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I should be able ordering this one i think it might work on a original rem. 1858 as well is my guess? so i will check it out later! If i can't bend it more not sure i just don't want to break it.

Anyone knows if that might work? I mean uberti is literally a copy of remington so it should be fine?
 

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@rodwha hey man could you check on your uberti if that part is loosen like mine? Check the clip and you will see what i mean. The thing that makes the cylinder rotate. i don't know the name of the part. But i'm pretty sure that's the problem. I guess a pretty dangerous problem.
Your video doesn’t play for me.

My Rem is a Pietta model.

I’m not a gunsmith, but it sounds like you might have a timing issue. If so I’d ask you hat can be done about it since gunsmiths aren’t something you find there.
 

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Remington New Model Army was not widely produced until 1861...
Got ya! Yeah i found out the other one i'm getting were produced in 1863 if i remember it right. I had a starr but it wouldn't work as it should so i changed to another rem of the same model. 1858 i'm waiting for the guy to post it. I read a document he sent me i think it said they produced that one in 1863.
 

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Your video doesn’t play for me.

My Rem is a Pietta model.

I’m not a gunsmith, but it sounds like you might have a timing issue. If so I’d ask you hat can be done about it since gunsmiths aren’t something you find there.
Oooh got ya man! I will send a picture of what i mean. I think the spring on the hand assembly doesn't push it forward enough for always getting a good grip on the cylinder. Well it's working still but i guess it should push the hand assembly forward to rotate the cylinder more then it does. And my wonder is should i change it to one from a pietta or uberti? Which one would work for a original remington best? Or should i simply just bend the spring to push it forward even more? I done that a little yesterday but not much since i was scared to break it.

If you look at the picturs the thing i guess it's name is hand assembly? rotating the cylinder is pished back more in the second picture then the first one. I think the spring behind it should push it forward more then it does?
 

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My understanding is that the New Model Army wasn’t produced until 1863, no?
You are right man. I checked a text document i got from the seller. I will send a screen shot as well but since it's in swedish i will send the translation entire text with google translate. And it's not the remington i have now that you guys have seen... i'm waiting for another one to arrive on post. I sent back the starr to the seller because of a defect of jamming and told him i want a remington instead.


So here you go.

Remington Army cal 44

A nice revolver that worked and unlocks as it should with distinct clicks.
Nice pipe address.

Sensible groove light with sharp bars.

Game pipe cylinder 0.25.

Entire piston sides with cartouche on v piston half bra Benjamin Hannis.

The revolver was manufactured in December 1863.

No right ie drum pipe body turntable.

A very affordable copy.

Google translate is crap....but i guess you get what the text says. It's not a copy tho since it's google translate fucking up. Made december 1863...wish it was a copy lol they got harder steel. Not sure if 0.25 between the barrel and the cylinder is good.
 

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Oooh got ya man! I will send a picture of what i mean. I think the spring on the hand assembly doesn't push it forward enough for always getting a good grip on the cylinder. Well it's working still but i guess it should push the hand assembly forward to rotate the cylinder more then it does. And my wonder is should i change it to one from a pietta or uberti? Which one would work for a original remington best? Or should i simply just bend the spring to push it forward even more? I done that a little yesterday but not much since i was scared to break it.

If you look at the picturs the thing i guess it's name is hand assembly? rotating the cylinder is pished back more in the second picture then the first one. I think the spring behind it should push it forward more then it does?
Pulled my NMA out and checked the position of my hand and found that it has a lot of slop! I’ve never had any issues with it working properly, but now I’m thinking I’ll look into what’s involved in fixing the bolt and hand.









I doubt Pietta parts will work as well as Uberti’s, but I don’t know. I’ve just read how Uberti guns are quite close to the originals, and that parts for a Police model fit the original.

Do your models both have the cutout showing the threads on the barrel? That’s what changed from the previous model and makes it a New Model (Army).
 

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If this is what you mean then yeah man they both got it.
The one i already have got it and the one i will get probably next week got them as well.

Got any ideas on how i could fix mine? I mean it works still etc it's hard to notice but i want it to be as it is supposed to be. And i'm not sure where i could get that part in case uberti and pietta won't work.

The second picture is the one i'm getting probably next week. And the first picture is to make sure that's what you mean by cutout on barrel.
 

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If this is what you mean then yeah man they both got it.
The one i already have got it and the one i will get probably next week got them as well.

Got any ideas on how i could fix mine? I mean it works still etc it's hard to notice but i want it to be as it is supposed to be. And i'm not sure where i could get that part in case uberti and pietta won't work.

The second picture is the one i'm getting probably next week. And the first picture is to make sure that's what you mean by cutout on barrel.
I’m not a gunsmith so I’m not sure what needs to be done or what tools it might take, but now I’d like to know too.

Yes, that’s what I meant by the cutout.

The Remington patent for the loading lever/base pin assembly was granted in 1858 and for whatever reason why these models are called such despite being designed 5 years later.

Oh, and I’m a bit jealous you will soon have two originals in shooting condition!
 

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I’m not a gunsmith so I’m not sure what needs to be done or what tools it might take, but now I’d like to know too.

Yes, that’s what I meant by the cutout.

The Remington patent for the loading lever/base pin assembly was granted in 1858 and for whatever reason why these models are called such despite being designed 5 years later.

Oh, and I’m a bit jealous you will soon have two originals in shooting condition!
Got ya man! I will text to the guy who i got my remington from and ask him what can be done about that spring! Probably he might know since he imports them from US i think and sells them here. He might have some expirience about fixing the stuff as well i guess!

Haha man i'm kinda jealous you can get replicas since they are made of harder steel so you can put in heavy charges without worrying they might blow up and they're cheaper so you can have more of them i guess. Wish we had better gun laws...i would get a remington replica and a beretta or glock i guess. Our laws are crazy!

You see i love guns but these are the only ones i can own even tho it's illegal keeping then with loaded chambers at home. According to laws i have to keep them discharged. And you know the originals cost me alot which sucks but i kinda don't have any other choice then getting these since i can't have other firearms. I love remingtons but it's a high price for 6 bullets at a time with slow reload! Still worth it in the world we live!

But they've been doing their job in 160 years so guess they might do it another 160 years and maybe save my life one day who knows....and it's kinda interesting since probably anyone who had them before me used them in war. So the history of my guns would be interesting to know!
 

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