Knapsack/ Haversack usage in Early 19th?

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From what I understand, it was pretty standard for people on the frontier and fur fields to pack most of their necessary equipment and belongings on their horses for good reason. How common was the usage of something such as a haversack or knapsack outside of the military pre-1840?
 
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It’s a bag, called whatever
Haversacks were for food
Knapsacks for stuff
Both were military
Of course that means civilians never put anything in a bag that looked like either😳
Paintings don’t show much in the way of bags except shooting pouches on people
Cartoons done at the time of the gold rush of 49 show people with shoulder bags ( haversacks) and knapsacks that look military in cut.
Several MM journals record being caught with out horses and having to travel, I’m going to bet catch as catch can.
Photos or painting of the time and the post MM period tend to catch people in a good spot. Wagons or horses close by.
 

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Hello,
From what I understand, it was pretty standard for people on the frontier and fur fields to pack most of their necessary equipment and belongings on their horses for good reason. How common was the usage of something such as a haversack or knapsack outside of the military pre-1840?

Remember that a lot of the documentation is of the English speaking cultures of the New Nation, while the folks from other parts of Europe had different traditions when it came to packs, etc...

A pack basket was actually more common than people think, but most of the available ones are actually fur trade or after. If you're doing prior to the fur trade, something closer to a wicker basket with straps is really correct. Single strap snapsacks have been around since the 16th century, some are cloth, and some leather. The Germanic rucksack also goes way back, and until recently when a cover flap was added, pretty much had not changed in several centuries.

So yes folks used packs, but depending on what they were doing and if a horse was available, they likely hung them on a pack horse. Now trappers...., have to wade creeks and set traps, so likely had the pack basket...


Leather Snapsacks

HAVERSACK VS PACK.jpg


Rucksack

RUCKSACK A.jpg


RUCKSACK B.jpg


Pack Basket in 18th century art

PACK BASKET 18th Century Hunting.JPG


In A Woodsrunner's Diary, there is a good article on packs made of all sorts of baskets...

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Right at the tail end of your time frame, but Friedrich Gerstäcker traveled quite a bit on foot hunting his way across the US, but I can't recall if he ever mentioned anything like a pack for carrying stuff. His book, Wild Sports in the Far West is public domain and has a lot of interesting information about the time. It was originally parts of his diary that he sent home to his mother in Germany, but she had them published in the local newspaper or magazines, and by the time he got back to Germany he had become rather famous for his stories. Given that they were originally diary entries, there probably isn't too much exaggeration in them, and they were written at the time and not at a later period, so they definitely contain information about life on the frontier at the time even if you do not believe some of the wilder stories in it.
 

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More likely all the way back to Biblical times. Didn't the ice man have one?
No he had a pack basket, made from woven grasses. Probably when in good condition it was very "fancy" for the time. He had some "high tech" tools for his day, too. The copper axe was one...

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