Just a couple snaphaunces used for over 150 years

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  1. Oct 15, 2019 #1

    Flintlock1640

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    I really focus on flintlocks but I do occasionally get other interesting pieces, usually with other items I am more interested in. The bottom is a continental (Italian?) snaphaunce, ca 1700. The middle seems to me earlier. With that style engraving, I would date it to mid-1600s. I hope you don't mind, but I take the liberty to add a flintlock lock which I have not found a similar example to date it. It has a lot of the snaphaunce influence so I believe it to be second or third quarter 17th century. I found the original cock on eBay France (dug up on a Napoleonic Wars site, obviously not related) which I believe to be stylistically similar to the lock and ca 1660s or 70s. I think it is interesting how one percussion conversion retains the horizontal sear while the other has been updated. I should have double-checked but I do not recall if Alessandro Ghini is in Der Neue Stockel or not.
     

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    I looked up Alessandro Ghini in Der Neue Stockel. They have him in Loiano in 1632. Only mention. The lock could be older or the records are not complete.
     
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    Interesting how on the perc conversion the tumber is on a stud that then has a nut holding it on, or is a bolt through the hammer thru the tumbler.
     
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    The latter is correct the nut holds the screw from the other side of the cock. It's just one long piece with the tumbler not threaded at all. Odd setup but it works.
     
  5. Oct 19, 2019 #5

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    Hi Flintlock.

    I also like collecting locks. Those are three very interesting locks. And they all three do indeed look as though they started life pre-1700. Those lock plate styles suggest that. The converted locks do show that during the period nothing was discarded that could be made to work. I especially find the flintlock interesting. Due to the lock plate and hammer style, my guess would be the third quarter of the 17th Century. It's interesting to note the lock variety during the first half of the 17th Century. Many of the locks have that "experimental" look.
    Anyway, nice additions to your collection.

    Rick
     

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