Discussion in 'Rocky Mountain Fur Trade' started by Greg Wesley, Dec 24, 2018.
Way too much from the title
Threads are like children or colonies, we guide them along and then they they take on a life of their own going happily along, or turning down a dark path in to the clutches of the evil one.... oh sorry got carried away there
Watched the JJ movie last night. First time since it first came out in 1972. Had forgotten just how stilted and corny the acting was. Tried to ignore the 'not authentic' stuff but still found it to be entertaining. The drama was lost in the bad acting.
I liked it when it first came out. Then each time I saw it afterwards I liked it alittle less. Ton of inaccuracies in it but it's still entertaining. I havent seen it in 20 years, maybe I'll enjoy it?
Maybe not. I have had great memories of movies I enjoyed many years ago. On rewatching them I was sadly disappointed. There are classics I can watch over and over, gone with the wind, treasure of serria modra, blazing saddles, and many I enjoyed back then that bore me to tears today. While the ‘70s made some great movies I don’t think it was Hollywood s best decade... or top three or four.
WHAT BOTHERED ME WAS THEM SHOWING THE EMBATTLED HEROES RATTLING RAMRODS IN THE BARRELS AND IN NO WAY USING THE RAMROD INAN ACCEPTIBLE MANNER..
YOU SORT OG HAVE TO IGNORE THESE HOLLYWOOD BRAIN SKIPS. I BELIEVE BLOWING DOWN THE BARREL ORIGINATED IN THE SERGEANT YORK MOVIE WHEN IT SHOWED HIM DOING SOME CHUNK GUN SHOOTING.
I THINK TEENAGERS WRITE A LOT OF THAT STUFF. MY ALL TIMEHONK WAS SOMEONE REPORTING ON THE SIGNING OF THE WW II SURENDER TREATY ON THE DESTROYER MISSOURI.
I remember watching a movie with my Dad about Indians, maybe “Wind Walker”
There was one scene where the Indians were riding their painted war ponies thru a field that was obviously grain planted by a modern grain drill.
And almost every Western shows baled hay at some point, yet hay baler was invented in the 1930’s, almost none on farms until the 40s. Not sure how ranchers in the 1870s West had baled hay
TUMBLWEED IS ANOTHER TIME MARKER. I DON'T BELIEVE IT EXISTED HERE UNTIL THE 1880\S WHEN THE WEED'S SEED CAME HERE FROM RUSSIA
THIS HAS GOTTEN AWAY FROM ML RIFLES.
I asked this question way back in this thread. If anyone answered I missed it. Those military pants that Johnson is wearing in the beginning of this movie. Didnt he "run away" from the Navy first? Are those Army or Navy trousers that he is wearing.
Yep, at the time it was a great movie. Little corny now but still fun. That darned movie ended up costing me a pile of money. I ran out and bought a T/C Hawken and started wandering around the woods playing “mountain man”. Still got that rifle and more. (Many more)
I think there are many men here because of that movie. But is kind of the whole purpose of this post isnt it? Most of us are sort of reminicsing how it all got started? Notice that I said many not all.
Life is a whole lot happier if you look for things to like, rather than things to hate.
I liked Jerimiah Johnson. I liked The Mountain Men too, Will Geer and Brian Keith were both funny.
All movies are about indulging one's fantasies.
Good post. I did say I found it entertaining.
Don’t want to start the blowing down the barrel thing, but we have histoic references to it.
As another poster wrote, it was entertainment and not a "history lesson". You likely deprived yourself of an entertaining movie experience about the history of the West. It had Indians, it had guns, it had horses and it had beautiful scenery. That's a great start in almost any man's book. Historically accurate or no, it still beats almost all of the movies made over the last few years, including Revenant.
It always amuses me greatly when someone complains, whines & whimpers because a movie is NOT "authentic". = That's why it's called: FICTION.
You keep saying this, but it is truly irrelevant. A movie can SUCK on its own, whether or not it is authentic.
Fiction is a category of writing/film and can be contrasted with non-fiction. While this movie could easily have been non-fiction if the directors & writers had made even the slightest effort, they chose to make the pile of crap instead. JJ is so full of garbage that it barely qualifies as fiction and is more fantasy than anything else....
So far I've seen no complaints , whines or whimpers. Just comments , that is what the person who opened this thread wished for isn't it?
If you misrepresent the position held by other side, you try to make them look ridiculous and win the argument. To use the proper term and call it what it is - STRAWMAN...
Little Big Man, now there was a film.
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