Oh M.L.F. what has befallen thee?! Like much of society, when those who seek truth and light, desire learning over b.s. get fed up with mindless incoherent drivel and speak their mind, often after self censoring desired responses, they are the one censored and repressed. I see it everywhere I go, someone acts a fool and when another gets tired of it and speaks up, they are the one in the wrong. Now it has infected this forum. Someone derails good topics with off topic self aggrandizing babble, or waters down a thread with commentary that makes one wonder if the poster knows what the thread is even about, often rambling on and on in an incoherent manner devoid of syntax or trackable line of thought or reason. And we are supposed to just be okay with that. Say something about it, even if it gets a "here here," from others as they wish they had spoken up, that comment will be removed. I've learned to much here over the years, and the forum is too active, for me to just leave (as some valuable sources of info have recently) and not try to dig a bit of value out of what is here. But one must wade through more and more murky babble to find anything one might call learning, than in years gone by. Often there is things one might call interesting, but not helpful in one's journey of learning about traditional, historical, muzzleloaders and the culture they were used and developed in. Anyway, sorry if it was inconvenient for me to have spoken my mind, of someone will send me the coordinates of a reeducation camp I will be sure to report there to get my mind right.