Seems logical, The bores are a sharp contrast to plug condition. Again i have not seen a such a color difference like that. Most i have had are an even rust brown. I agree with the plug fit and flaw issues and a shame to do so given such a fine looking piece. I will add many exceptionally nice looking ones were those retired early from either a defect or the advent of cartridge arms.Vint,
it is most common for the plugs to be a different color, as they are case-hardened.
My belief on this gun, is that it has fairly recently been fine -bored to remove pitting.
The breech -plugs were maybe somewhat rusty and hard to remove, and were cleaned up, resulting unfortunately in becoming a bit slack.
The flaw in the barrel at the breech could be a welding flaw, undetected when assembled but the loose material coming adrift later, or when 'recently' de-breeched..
Guns of any decent quality were regulated to pattern with the barrel length they had, so a shortened set of barrels May pattern well, or be got to do so, but can not be guaranteed. to do so like in their original length.
So I was right thenGood news all around today. I want to thank everyone for their input. I did read it all, and learned from it. Today I took it out and did a simple set up. I tied a rope around the barrels, and the front ramrod tube kept it from sliding off the front. I then tied it to a small tire I laid on the ground. This proved a fine set up for testing, and this way the stock did not take any force. The gun never came off the tire. I then ran a short rope tied to the triggers around the corner, and I hid on the other side of the silo. I started easy, and worked up. Things were going boringly smooth, so I decided to go for the gusto. I loaded 180 gr powder, and an equal volume of shot. This should be at least 2 1/2 oz of shot, if not 2 3/4 oz. Other than a couple incredibly loud booms, there was zero issues at all. The ramrod didn't even creep out. Nothing broke, nothing leaked, and nothing came loose. I then continued to shoot it by hand with lighter loads for about half an hour.
Oh for Pete's sake180 grains and 2.5 oz or more of shot is a stiff load.
For what it is worth, I would not have gone nearly that high. While the load did not cause a failure, you also need to consider what harm you are doing to the metal that is undetected at this point. Metal cracks and you just don't want to add any new cracks that might cause a future failure and not a failure today.
I'm just glad you didnt listen to the prophets of doom. Miserable lot!My guess is that the pressure of such a load is not nearly as crazy as some would believe. I really doubt it is much over 10,000 PSI. It's not that crazy. That's the reason I did it, I wanted to test it. I've read about the potential for causing damage, but at the same time I could not find a single case where a gun tested in such a way ever failed afterwards. That's besides the fact that it is very easy to double charge a SXS. I didn't want the first time I made a mistake to be dramatic. Now I know it is good to go.
What is a repro armature. Is that part of an electric motor?Well I do not think I am one of the miserable lot and a prophet of doom, educational yes with many years experience not like some repro armatures who spout forth a load of rubbish on originals they know very little about. Everything seemed to go well ,but it could have gone terrible wrong and he could now be laid in a hospital bed minus some part of a body. All I can say listen too experience advise be safe and ignore the ignorant just shoot it brigade
Sir I have no need to explain myself to you or anyone else my images on these forums which I have worked on speak for themselves they are not Library Photos you can name any type of a original gun from a matchlock to to a early breech loader and I have restored them all To but it bluntly I have restored more guns than you have had hot dinners long before you came into muzzle loading all I say grow up stop silly remarks and jealously gets you nowhereWhat is a repro armature. Is that part of an electric motor?
You sir have not educated the original poster of anything but you did prophesy doom.
You have in the past indicated that you as many others have disassembled originals and rebuilt them. We have no proof of this just library photographs, please publish your credentials so we can be reassured of your claim to work conducted.
I for one have no qualifications or credentials but then again dont claim too! In fact I would prefer to remain an amateur ( armature?) after seeing how supposed professions turn out!
I have watched your contributions on many forums for many many years Brian but I never see any evidence or tutorials of you alleged work so please enlighten us all please. I'm sure I speak not just for myself here, I think many would enjoy it.
You may well be correct regards how long I have been muzzleloading. But one place you have no jurisdiction or authority is how I remark on this forum thank you. That sir is for the owners and administration team of this forum, not you.Sir I have no need to explain myself to you or anyone else my images on these forums which I have worked on speak for themselves they are not Library Photos you can name any type of a original gun from a matchlock to to a early breech loader and I have restored them all To but it bluntly I have restored more guns than you have had hot dinners long before you came into muzzle loading all I say grow up stop silly remarks and jealously gets you no ware
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