How many guns?

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  1. Apr 23, 2019 #41

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    Men with families would have normally had at least one spare gun as soon as they could afford it, if for no other reason than to still have a gun around the house when the husband/father was away.
     
  2. Apr 23, 2019 #42

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    Right now I have way too many rifles, shotguns and revolvers.....of all vintage. But I am happy!
     
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    To most politicians one gun is plenty but, as we know, the more you get into the sport of shooting you realize there are many different interests. Plinking is usually first followed by, precision shooting, skeet, trap, etc. etc. the list goes on. To my knowledge, one gun will not cover all the interests!
     
  4. Apr 24, 2019 #44

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    Excuse me, to many guns!!!! That's like a girl too pretty or too much fun------just can't be done!
     
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    And I’m interested in local history. I can go to an event of the 1740-50s, 1770s-80s, or the war of 1812, or the Santa Fe trail period- Schoolcrafts Of The ozarks period1815-1830.
    You can’t take an early nineteenth century SMR to an F&I event. Likewise a TFC might be used in 1830, but not bloody likely.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2019 #46

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    Age x2 seems like a nice goal.
     
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    Let's see. A .32 for squirrels, .36 for large squirrels, .40 for woodchuck and porcupines, .45 for does and skippers, .50 for bucks, ....., double barrel 4 bore for T-rex.
     
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  8. Apr 26, 2019 #48

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    And I thought I was behind the curve. I am proud of you, all of you. Here in NY I collect as many as I can. I am getting up to shooting a different gun each day of the month. Only a few to go.
     
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    Love your picture of the native and scotsman. I have that print hanging in my office.
     
  10. Apr 30, 2019 #50

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    Yeah, I was that way at one time too. I had so much stuff it took an entire truck to move it all. Now down to the last of my excess. Stuff just does not seem important anymore. I have learned the pleasure of life.
    "He who dies with the most toys wins" ?? No, i think the phrase is more like " He who outlives the guy with the most toys wins" All of it will go to someone else.
    Have a ton of WW2 Gear if any of you collect it. I may be posting some colonial gear as well. I really only do Native anymore or Native influenced white. Ill keep you all posted. Rest will all be going on Ebay. I will keep my Smoothbore and Rifle, maybe a couple others but everything else is going.
    Yeah i go back and forth, Its hard to part with stuff that took a lifetime to get. Its normal i guess.I have crates of stuff that all i do with now is move from one place to another and worry about someone stealing. Just not worth it. We live in such a materiel society. My days of worry about fighting off the invaders or the apocalypse are over. When they start shooting missiles I'll hold up a big target.
     
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    Ketchakah, I understand what you are saying. I have a lot of stuff...alot! Guns, gear, collectables etc. It falls into 3 groups.

    1. Guns that were my grandpa's, my FIL's or were gifts from my wife and kids. Those are heirlooms and will get passed on. Pretty much all the hunting guns are in that group.

    2. Self defense/home defense. Those belong to my children when they are of age. They can do what they want with them as they grow older. I hope they keep them or at least trade for what works for them.

    3. The last group is collectable stuff. This third group is very fluid. Once I stop getting enjoyment from it, down the road it goes. Books, gear guns, what ever I get tired of is up for sale or trade.

    It is important to own the stuff, not let it own you.
     
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    I was only making a joke about the amount of toys we own, including guns. Even my camp I buy neat stuff and end up not using it. I’ve gotten rid of a lot, but can’t keep my eyes out of online catalogs by Townsend,crazy crow, TOW et al..... ml porn, very addictive.
    I was just using that as an intro in to peoples thoughts on how many guns the typical trans frontier person owned at any one time. I can outfit for 1750s, 70s 18teens up to 30s.
    I have several self defense guns, but my operating guns, the ones I like to shoot are few.
    No you have to own things not let them own you. Stuff DOES NOT EQUAL HAPPINESS.
     
  13. Apr 30, 2019 #53

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    "Stuff does not equal happiness". I agree to a point but, I recently helped two older members of my gun club move into assisted living apartments and a couple of things stick in my mind. The first gentleman looked up at his new home and said "the final stop". He was also required to get rid of any guns he owned before moving into the apartment. He gave them to his nephew who knows nothing of guns and he only asked in return if he could come over and see them from time to time. The second gentleman moved in his apartment but was able to keep one or two of his guns but had to get rid of most of everything else he had in order to fit in the apartment. He once owned a machine shop and had a nice working area in his home...............its all gone. He misses being able to work on little projects of his own as well as his friends. He comes over to my work area which he likes but it is nothing compared to what he had. So, bottom line, there is a lot of sadness in the end when everything is gone. Sometimes stuff does equal happiness.
     
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    I will never forget what sad days it was when my Dad had to give up hunting and finally fishing, because he was no longer physically able to do so at advanced age. At least he had a full life time of doing both when he was able to do so. I recently had to inventory and value his guns for the probate inventory, after he passed. He owned six guns, so it was not a lot and it turns out I had given him 3 of them as gifts over the years. Dad was a hunter, not a target shooter, so all his guns were for that purpose. However, no one gun would work for all kinds of hunting.

    In the period, I'm sure a man would have bought or procured a second gun when he could, as long as he lived where he could use them. He would have procured more guns for his children, as he could and as time passed. City Dwellers may have only had one gun that qualified for their Militia Duty, especially if they had no where to hunt they could reasonably access. If a man prospered and was able to hunt often, I don't doubt he may have owned a couple or more guns, though I imagine he owned at least a rifle and a smoothbore in many cases.

    Gus
     
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    Dunno about Age X 2. I'm 75 and would have to get rid of a few.
     
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    My dad was 87 and working in his little shop. He had just turned off his table saw and turned to his bench. The saw was still spinning down, he lost his balance when he turned and put out his hand to catch himself. Put his hand on the saw, cutting off the ends of two fingers. He never recovered. We all face that ‘cruel remorseless old foe’.
     
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    Not to worry, we all tease about such things. There are people that do feel that way though.
    I think in the regards of the story that Zorba mentioned, Its not so much the stuff, but the life it represented.

    Before the collapse of economy in Ca, I had alot of stuff. I restored Military and Fire vehicles and had a huge collection of Military gear. Most of it is gone now. Now i see others with those things and it is difficult. Not because i miss the stuff specifically, but because it reminds me of a different time. You can see my Ambulance and Weapons Carrier in The Toby Keith video "American Soldier" and me, walking by with rifle cradled in my arms. I am also in the Viet Nam Sequence with the M-14 My Jeep was featured in an episode of "Mail Call" I did alot of Movie stuff.
    But truly, when i think about it, That time was not a happy time. I filled the life i wanted with all that stuff. I thought the stuff made me happy, but like a drug, it was never enough. Always more stuff.

    Now i focus on what life provides and those gifts. The freedom will come when my life is simpler. Not quite there yet, but im working on it.
     
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    Free men were required to maintain weaponry as far back as the Middle Ages and before. The 1187 Assize of Arms required a free Englishman have at a minimum an iron helm and iron-tipped lance. Knights had to have sufficient horses and supplies on hand for a 30 day campaign, as well as seeing that everyone under their fee was properly armed and supplied according to their station.

    Although a gun may have been relatively expensive, it was often a necessity for survival, both for the individual and the community. They would have been budgeted for.

    Those stockpiled guns were likely captures or culled from those who had fallen. A major factor in the repulsion of a charge on Cemetery Ridge at Gettysburg was the fact that the Union troops had gathered up every spare rifle and had them loaded and ready. Instead of 3 rounds a minute, the Confederates faced 3 rounds in 10 seconds.
     
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    Interesting about the charge at Cemetery, do you have link or cite that I can read up on that? I would love to know more.
     
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    "Gettysburg: The Last Invasion " by Allen. C. Guelzo, Director of Civil War Rea Studies and Civil War Era Professor at Gettysburg Collegs. It's a good narrative of the battle and the events leading up to it. Chapter 22 is where it's described. "Almost every man had 2 to 5 guns, many smoothbore .69cal muskets loaded with buckshot" is just one detail.
     

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