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I tried creating another thread but it hasn't come up, not sure why. Anyhow I'll try again.

Basically I was wanting to know with all things being equal what are the key differences other than the lock and the comb drop?

Have been wanting a fusil but they're almost non existent in this part of the world. I'd do a kit but I've has to accept I have no time for it at this stage in life. I'd try buying a finished gun but I just want a well functioning plain stocked gun with no fancy work and everything I see for sale by makers is intricate and expensive as all get out, especially when converted to my money.

The other reason I ask for a comparison is that I've been offered am English style 20G smoothy which is really tempting me. I'm not a re-enactor or anything, just liked the idea of a French smoothbore as a nod to my French heritage. But as I said it will be nigh impossible to find here so not sure whether I'm better off just buying this other gun.
 

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If you are like me, if you don't get exactly what you want, you are still going to want it! Where are you located?
 

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I tried creating another thread but it hasn't come up, not sure why. Anyhow I'll try again.

Basically I was wanting to know with all things being equal what are the key differences other than the lock and the comb drop?
I guess you’re focusing on French fusils de chasse versus English trade guns. Both came in different grades. Both exhibited architectural changes over time. French hardware and locks are different from what you’ll see on English guns. French guns seldom had barrels under 44” whereas English trade guns from the 1760s on sometimes had barrels as short as 36”. Generally Native Americans preferred French guns when they could get them, believing they were of higher quality. For practical purposes, you’ll not experience a general difference in performance between today’s contemporary French versus English re-creations. It’s a matter of parts quality, build quality, and fit.
 

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Personal, I like the feel of the French style as fitting me better.
I wish you didn't say that!

Realistically, even at my spending limit of $3,000 I'm not going to get even a basic fusil here. And with a pre-schooler, toddler and an another baby due in September it'll be a decade or more before I've got time to think about building one. Might be better to just go with the English fowler and do my fusil later in life.

At the end of the day, fusil is just french for gun and an English fusil has been a term used in history. I wanted a fusil not for the gun itself but for the thought of hunting with the same style gun my ancestors did. Maybe I'll just call this one my English fusil if I buy it.
 

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especially when converted to my money

nigh impossible to find here
Where are you?
Your profile doesn't say.

Not sure what you can have shipped to you.
If you can find a used Centermark Fusil des Chase online and legally have it shipped to you, the gun shouldn't be in the $3,000 range,,,, but I don't know what shipping would be. It isn't and exact replica, but it is obvious that is is supposed to be a Fusil des Chase. You may not have time for a full kit, but what about an "in the white," gun? This is basically a completed build that just needs to have finishes applied and be reassembled. Sitting Fox offers these, as does Jackie Brown now and then.
 

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Where are you?
Your profile doesn't say.

Not sure what you can have shipped to you.
If you can find a used Centermark Fusil des Chase online and legally have it shipped to you, the gun shouldn't be in the $3,000 range,,,, but I don't know what shipping would be. It isn't and exact replica, but it is obvious that is is supposed to be a Fusil des Chase. You may not have time for a full kit, but what about an "in the white," gun? This is basically a completed build that just needs to have finishes applied and be reassembled. Sitting Fox offers these, as does Jackie Brown now and then.

I'm Australian, with our exchange rate $2k your money is $3k ours. That's without freight and permits. The importer I spoke to here said to double the cost of any gun you want brought in.
 

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I'm Australian, with our exchange rate $2k your money is $3k ours. That's without freight and permits. The importer I spoke to here said to double the cost of any gun you want brought in.
I suspected that was the case. How do they define gun?
If it is disassembled and unfinished, is it a gun?

So, a $1,500 gun here is about $2,500 to $3,000 there. Rough stuff.
 

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I suspected that was the case. How do they define gun?
If it is disassembled and unfinished, is it a gun?

So, a $1,500 gun here is about $2,500 to $3,000 there. Rough stuff.
Not sure on the definition,

All I know is a chambers kit was set to cost $2500
 
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