Flintlock carbine with Charleville stamped lock plate

[Jason60chev]

Hello,

I saw this flintlock "carbine" posted for sale and have been trying to identify its features.....

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/925326642
The lockplate is marked "Charleville".......I can really not make out the script above that.
It has a brass pan, indicative to the 1777.

Seller believes it to be mostly an original piece and possibly cut down from a musket.
The stock does not look like a 1777 and there is no dished out area on the left side. On the right side,
just ahead of the rear band, appears to be a filler where the band spring was. The butt also appears to have been shortened
and is at a different angle. The top of the butt plate does not appear to be standard anything, that I have seen....possibly modified
for the contour of the shortened butt?

Anyway......can any of y'all help me to identify what this IS or ISN'T. I like this length of firearm.

Thank you

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
It looks like a model 1777 cavalry musketoon but the barrel was shortened and the side rail was replaced along with its barrel band attachment. The musketoons did not have the dished cheek and they had the combination brass and iron trigger guards.

dave

 

[Loyalist Dave]

That's the problem that you have when a Colonial Power like Britain, France, Germany, or Belgium are involved with old guns... heck throw the Netherlands into the mix too... They produce a LOT of arms, and some of these end up in their colonies. They also build for export. Because they make good stuff, they also attract copy-cats.... (sometimes of questionable quality). So pieces come along like the above, which are antique parts, but also altered. Were they altered in France, in a colony, or by one of the previous owners??? How when where and why may impact the value of the piece, BUT that information is lost to history.

LD