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  1. Apr 22, 2019 #1

    mjpchief

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    So my brother in law found out that I am messing with black powder firearms today and he hands me his cap and ball single shot pistol. He said he hadn't shot it in xxx years and guess what. He hadn't cleaned it in xxx years. Wants me to bring it back.

    I took the pistol apart to start the cleaning and first off the nipple is stuck. I sprayed it with Kroil and while I was at it I filled the barrel full and let it soak. Went back later to see if nipple would come out yet and decided to brush the bore and see how it looked. I shoved a brand new brass brush down the barrel and when I pulled the rod back out the brush didn't come out with the rod. New brush is stuck at the breach end of the barrel. Any suggestions on getting ahold of this brush and pulling it out. Oh and by the way this barrel does not have a breach plug. This barrel is 10 inches long.

    I know there will be suggestions to toss it but I don't like to give up on any firearm unless there is absolutely no hope for it. And besides that he bought this pistol when he was a kid and wants to shoot it again.
     
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    Go to your local Ace Hardware store and buy a length of 3/8" brass tubing.Push this down the barrel and over the bristles of the bore brush you uded.It will encapsulate the bristles and allow you to remove the broken bore brush. Never use a bre brush that does not have the core spiral go through the threaded stem. The China-made, swaged on bore brushes routinely get stuck in the breech of muzzle loading guns.
     
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    You sir are a life saver. Probably would have never thought of that. Thank you.
    Man I love this forum.
     
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    Make sure your ram rod is pinned as well if your using the wooden one.
     
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    if this doesn't work......pull the nipple, get either a Co2 canister or compressed air with a rubber snubber attachment.........hold firmly on nipple hole, POP goes the brush !
     
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    Wasn't using the ram rod. It doesn't have a tapped hole for cleaning appliances. Using a short aluminum cleaning and it pulled the brush out of its own threading collar.
     
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    Tried the air hose trick and air just went by the brush.
     
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    X2. If you have round curtain rods, might save you a couple bucks.

    Quick and slick.
     
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    Never use an aluminum cleaning rod like Hoppe's 3 piece cleaning kit rods on a muzzleloader. But, I guess you realize that now. Don't use Cabela's brand muzzleloader jags either, they have soft brass shanks and will bust. and, don't use crimped in brushes.
     
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    The crimped brush is the part that caused the problem. Another lesson learned.
     
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    Worked perfect. Shoved the tubing down over the brush and it just fell out. Thank you.
     
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    My brother in law is a plumber. Got the tubing from his scrap pile. I'm kind of cheap like that sometimes.
     
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    I like that "tubing /fix" but what about
    the stuck nipple? Did it get taken out without too much trouble?
     
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    Soaked in Kroil then heated and soaked again. Got it out and chased the threads with a tap. Installed new nipple and scrubbed the bore until clean. Still a little dark but I'm going to the range in a little bit to shoot it.
     
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    I have adopted the "use no brush" theory. Saves on headaches, brushes are a failure waiting to happen or you'll get one stuck.
     
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    Just out of curiosity when did brushes come on the scene? Was there even such a thing 175 years ago?
     
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    The next brush I use will be soldered before I shove it in the barrel.
     
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    I understood what you meant,
    Hope it works, but I won't take the bet.
     
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    Solder will also let's go. Drill and pin it is better with a thin nail etc.
     
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    I can drill and pin a new brush. I have an older brush that will not let go but it is getting to the point of being worn out. Hard to find good tools anymore.
     

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