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  1. Mar 30, 2019 #41

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    Oh, sorry,, your edited quote made it look like you understand surfactants.
    I was just trying to point out the questions about common "soap" and your knowledge of a surfacant and the use in household detergents.
    Didn't mean to be rude,, or upset you.
    Do you have a chem background too?
     
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    Edited quote?
     
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    Do you ?
     
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    Soaps may have additional surfactants added to them - I'm sorry if this wasn't clear to you.
     
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    Uhm, Yeah?
    Will I be able to explain it all to you? No. I am not a good teacher, I recognize that.
    I have said on this forum a gazzilion times,, I am not a good explainer.
    I have no diplomacy, I ain't good at that.
    I know truth and fraud, does that count? And if it doesn't, then I'm sorry.

    "Those that can do,, those that can't teach"
    I do. (period)
     
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    I'm still waiting for your point - but you do tap-dance pretty...
     
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    I'ts just that, you've repeatedly criticized people on the matter of surfactants. Is the nature of your experience academic or hands on. The reason I ask is because you continually criticize but never explain. Yet you espouse to be some kind of expert.

    Maybe I could help you explain things better, if i knew where your context was coming from. Do you work with surfactants, or do you manufacture one ?
    Something tells me we could benefit from your knowledge.
     
  9. Mar 30, 2019 #49

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    When a child wants to learn the alphabet, how do you teach the letter "A"?
    I always started years earlier, long before they even knew about letters by singing "Twinkle-Twinkle Little Star".
    Then ya just change the lyrics. I'm not vested to sing twinkle-twinkle to ya.
    You should stick to "documents", your good at that.
     
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    A characteristically evasive non-answer - you presume to know what you don't know and imply you know more than you may actually know.
     
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    (rub's chin icon) wow, I'm not so sure about that. I don't know(?) :confused:
    Guy's, Dawn Dish soap is fine, good stuff, it works great. Just a little dab will do ya.
     
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    It's like watching Gregory Hines or Fred Astaire...
     
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    Give up B.H. he's not worth your time.

    If we have a like button for people's posts, why can't we have a "don't like" or "what an 'fecal pinching muscle'" button? Then we could note our disgust with a post without wasting time responding and drawing forth further troll like responses creating useless cycle.
     
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    Black powder fouling doesn't care about the cleaner being easier on the hands. So whether it is Dawn, or Dollar Store Dish soap, Awesome or any other soap with oil cutting additives, you can clean your powder fouling from your firearm. Maybe you will need an extra squirt of the cheap stuff, but you can always have cleaner on hand and your spouse won't get upset because the dish soap is missing.
     
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    i remember that back in the 70/s at shoots a lot of shooters used pine sol, im sure it was, for a patch lube.
     
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    I'm just disappointed that someone who claims to know so much shares so little of their obviously vast knowledge. We're all trying to learn...
     
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    Carol does not like Dawn but I think it is our water, full of lime, a shower is no suds either even with the water softener. Now a good bore cleaner is Ballistol and it mixes with water. Simple Green works fine too but the easiest is 50-50 anti freeze and water.
    PLEASE do NOT put WD40 in or on your fine rifles. The stuff causes rust. If it hardens you will never desolve it with anything. I have seen firing pins frozen solid in bolt guns. I had moisture problems in my garage in Ohio with wood working machines. Painted bases. Dust got all over so I sprayed WD40 on the painted surfaces to clean. Never seen metal rust so fast. The stuff will flush water off but remove it and replace with a good rust preventative.
    Cold water is best for BP and then real hot to dry, then a good protectant so rust should never rear it's ugly head. Now a bullet or patch lube might need some soap.
     
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    Sorry friend (45man) you raised my blood pressure for a milisecond. I started reading yout post and... my wife is Carol and I have very hard water too! I thought you were "guoting" me.

    i've never heard of using antifreeze in with the mix?.
     
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    :thumbs up: Amen, Bro.
     
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    Easier than cleaning with water with a drop of detergent or just plain water? Why does something so simple need to be so complicated...?
     
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