CVA Mtn Rifle with no patchbox?

[BE Wild Willy]

I've been looking for an affordable roundball gun and came across what appears to be an older Mountain Rifle. The dilema is that it has no patchbox, what gives?

 

[cowpoke1955]

I haven't seen or heard of one without a patch box. Maybe some of the very early models. Most of rhe early models had Douglas barrels nade in the USA, well worth the money. Check the markings on the barrel and the condition of the bore.

 

[BE Wild Willy]

Only visible markings are "Conneticut Valley Arms, Inc.. Black Powder only .50 Caliber"

 

[necchi]

Are you sure it's not a Hawkin?
The Mountain had 2 wedge keys.

 

[BE Wild Willy]

Barrel is 33" from nipple to muzzle with 2 wedges.

 

[Kentuckywindage]

big bore mountain rifle "54-58cal" did not have patch boxes.

 

[BE Wild Willy]

big bore mountain rifle "54-58cal" did not have patch boxes.

I had read this too, but this is a .50 with a 15/16" barrel. Curiouser & curiouser...

 

[BE Wild Willy]

If purchased as a kit would the stock have been inletted for the patchbox?

 

[Lonegun1894]

I bought my CVA St. Louis Hawken .50 as a kit, and the stock was inletted for the patch box, but this was one of the late ones (2002-2003?).

 

[Jumpshot]

Only visible markings are "Conneticut Valley Arms, Inc.. Black Powder only .50 Caliber"

Those are the only markings on mine, too, except it's a .58. It has no patch box. I thought a .50 would have a pactch box. Maybe there was a small run made without them or something.

 

[Birddog6]

Then yours is a Big Bore Mountain Rifle if it is a .54 or .58 & no patchbox. Should have iron trim. VERY accurate rifle .... Some say the barrels of such are Douglas, but none I have ever seen said Douglas on them. Either way, they shoot well & will knock the snot out of a whitetail.

Keith Lisle

 

[Cascade Pete]

Pics would help a bit here...Not all Mountain Rifles had patch boxes. My Very High end Browning Mountain Rifle does not have one....As some originals did not either. It was not a prerequisite to have one...

 

[BE Wild Willy]

Unfortunately no pics available, but seems certain by the pics I've seen of others that it's a Mtn. Rifle in 50 cal. Just a little perplexed about it not having a patchbox. Would this be a potential plus or minus in the value of the gun, as opposed to one with the 4 screw. When I buy something I always consider what I might be able to get out of it, if need be, down the road.

 

[necchi]

That is perplexing,

I'd call Deer Creek and ask them. They have been suppliers for CVA since CVA sold out the traditional line and have been instrumental in the making and aftermarket items for the MR for a long time now.

It could be the stock you have is an aftermarket/replacement that didn't have a patch box??

I spoke with them a month ago or so and had several questions about the MR answered.

No web site or email, ya gotta call;
765:525:6181

 

[BE Wild Willy]

Well I went ahead and opted for one with the 4 screw patchbox. If anyone's interested in the one I've been inquiring about you can check it out on GB, Auction # 277994183. I have no affiliation with the seller, contemplated buying it myself.

 

[cowpoke1955]

Just looked at it. It is a CVA Mountain Rifle. The pewter nose cap, iron trigger guard, two barrel wedges and that rear sight. You can't see if there is a patch box or not, with that sleeve over the butt stock for the sling.

 

[Sharps1863]

That's a Mountain Rifle made in Spain by Ardesa. No patch box, lighter weight than the 1st CVA mountain Rifle.
Way to higher starting price on it.

 

[BE Wild Willy]

I had emailed the seller and asked about the patch box and number of screws. He said none was present.

 

[BE Wild Willy]

Seller stated "Only marks I can find on the gun are Conneticut Valley Arms, Inc.. Black Powder only .50 Caliber".

 

[Klaus]

could you post a pic from your Rifle ?

Klaus :wink: