Clothing for 1840-1859

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  1. Oct 20, 2018 #1

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    Looking for some websites that have some different clothing styles for this time period, vendors also appreciated. Also looking for a container for lunch and a canteen/tin cup? (they say metal cup but I'm not sure if they would just carry a cup around all day without a canteen?)

    As persona not sure as it is for one of my sons field trips, they are going to a farm to see how people lived in this time period and want to be more period correct then blue jeans and a button up shirt.
     
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    It depends a lot on 1) how you want to look and 2 how much you want to spend. Crazy crow or jedidiah star can get you a pair of drop front trouser and shirt roughly of the time. Townsend’s can narrow your time a bit. How ever one of the weird sides of our sport is a tendency to stop about 1840 and pick up again about 1860. Styles changed.
    jardagans does sell some civilian kit items, but pricey.
    Round canteens in tin were seen by this time having been stamped out during the Mexican war. However canteens were mostly military at this time . A civilian in the east had plenty of creeks and springs to use, that for health reasons we may not want to dip into today.
    In the west few were ever far from a horse, and water could be carried in bags on the horse or barrels in the wagon. So a cup on your belt would not have demanded a canteen
    Today many of us civilians carry a period military style canteen. Lots of civil war sites sell the one to one and a half qt round tin canteens of this time frame. The long narrow tin d and kidney shaped one qt canteens had fallen out of style by then
    Food would be carried in a haversack. A squar bag on a strap hung over the shoulder opposite your shooting bag. The style of these didn’t change much over the years. Knapsacks in military style too can be gotten via civil war vendors.
    Civilians again might not have military gear and a hunk of bread or jerky might just be stuffed in you coat pocket. Again a kit might be on your horse or wagon. Today many of us carry a haversack on an outing.
     
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    Wild rag. If you 're a cowboy, western plainsman, you need one. 36x36" is the standard size. Not those little hankes seen in the movies.
     
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    I have if your interested the following
     
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    I will to try and get them this weekend. I got to find out how to send them to you.
     
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    I always recommend Walter Prescott Webb's clasic work The Great Plains to anyone interested in portraying a plainsman. It won't tell you what to wear but will provide a foundation to build on, giving a understanding of the reality of life on the plains. There is a difference between the plains and the prairie that might be a factor in any portrail. I don't agree that a wild rag is an essential item, and very well may not even be correct for your era of interest.
     
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    tenn gun,

    At least here in Texas, the Chief Curator of our Alamo Shrine says that "- - -- clothing was expensive & hard for the common man to replace, so any apparel that was available new or used from about 1820 to 1845 is suitable for the Texas Colonial Era, through the first years of Statehood, to include the Mexican War years.
    (Many a ship from "back in The States" docked in Texas ports with barrels of used clothes to resell to poor settlers.)

    Btw, here in TX & the Southwest a considerable amount of Spanish, Mexican & NA clothing & equipment was commonplace among the working folks, as such clothing/equipment was AVAILABLE & often CHEAP.
    Also, many a "New Texican" married a Native American, European immigrant (For example, a "Queen's Daughter", straight out of madhouses, workhouses, prisons & just "gathered up" from the London slums & "packed off to Texas, Australia or South Africa", with a "small dowry from HRM Victoria". = Many an "old Texas family" has a "Queen's Daughter" in their ancestry.) or Latino woman. In many such cases, the new wife made clothing for her family that she was familiar with.
    (Based on trader's reports flintlock weapons, of many sorts, were commonplace until well after the Mexican War, at least among "the poorer social classes".)

    Note: I've heard rumors that SOME folks in 2019 still shoot flintlocks & still prefer those "primitive weapons".
    (CHUCKLE.)

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    I know that some effort at trying to uniform some of the troops was tried, I would like to know if any information concerning belts and belt plates? were belts if they existed were black dressed leather or white buff also if there warrant enough cartridge boxes did they use haversaks or hunting bags from home? any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated, Tom
     
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    It was such a short rebellion and cash and material stressed. I don’t know if the government passed any laws but I don’t know they would have had the time to implement them.
    But.....
    during the war of 1812 Washington was burned, the navy ended up blockaded in port, trade dropped to a trickle, the frontier was on fire, and yet our congress found time to work on important things like changing the Army’s uniform.
     
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