Cleaning a non removable barrel

[gunslinger922]

I have always have BP rifles with a hook breach rifle making it easy to remove and clean. I recently bought a 32 cal full stock rifle with a barrel that can’t be removed. Shooting traditional BP. How do I clean it without ruining the full length stock. I’m used to using soapy water to clean my other rifles. Any suggestions

 

[hunter thompson]

I had the same question awhile back..lots of replies..you might search threads for it..might find it.

 

[doubleset]

Out of curiosity, what kind of barrel can't be removed? Is like ... glued into the stock?

 

[gunslinger922]

Technically it can be removed but appears I would have to remove it from the stock. Looks like the action and barrel are not meant to be taken apart. Just different fro the hook breach design I’m used to

 

[gunslinger922]

I’m afraid removing the barrel and action from the stock each time will cause a change in point of impact, I know it would in my bolt guns

 

[hawkeye2]

Removing it may change the point of impact or not but if it's pinned in why go to the trouble. All you have to do is keep the water off the wood, easy. Clean with wet patches. If its a percussion put a piece of leather or rubber on the nipple and let the hammer down on it. Flint, plug the touch hole with a matchstick or toothpick, I usually remove the lock to make it easier.

 

[Bighorserider]

It probably won't change point of impact, but everytime you remove a pinned barrel from the stock you risk damaging the stock. Just plug the touch hole or nipple. Pour your favorite cleaning solution into the barrel and let it soak for a while. Plain water works fine. Pour it out and run patches through it until it's clean. I also have a thing that screws into a nipple hole and has a plastic tube on it you can put in a bucket of water and pump water through like you would a hook breech barrel.

 

[gunslinger922]

Thanks for the ideas! What do y’all use to clean. Probably will shoot blackpowder and try triple 7

 

[deerstalkert]

if you are not comfortable unpinning the stock from the barrel, don't do it.
get a cradle and turn the rifle upside down. swab the barrel . remove the lock and clean behind it and clean the area around the nipple/drum/vent which ever you have. i seriously doubt the boys of old unpinned their barrels every time they cleaned.
Now, if you want the whole muzzle loader experience, get the tiniest punch you can find and very carefully remove the pins holding the barrel in. act like the punch is a detonator and and the wood is C4.
the way i clean my full length rifles is with a small wall paper steamer. i swab the barrel with a patch coated with a jellied soap then run a tube up the barrel. when the boogers stop coming out i swab it with dry patches and then one with alcohol. folloed with an oiled patch.

 

[deerstalkert]

Thanks for the ideas! What do y’all use to clean. Probably will shoot blackpowder and try triple 7

if it is a flintlock best to forget the 777. you will have frustrating time with misfires.

 

[Dave Marsh]

Thanks for the ideas! What do y’all use to clean. Probably will shoot blackpowder and try triple 7

I use plain old room temperature water. If it is a flintlock the Triple 7 won't work.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

There's no point at all in removing a pinned barrel to clean it. You think our ancestors did that? Of course not. You can clean it well enough by running wet patches down the barrel until they come out grey instead of black. Follow up with a dry patch and then a Water Displacing oil (as in WD40) and you're done. You might want to give the bore a coat of Rig or something similar if you don't plan on shooting it for awhile especially if you live in a humid climate. People tend to over think a lot of this business.

 

[gunslinger922]

It is a percussion rifle, not flint lock. What is Rig? Sorry if it’s a dumb question

 

[deerstalkert]

full stock percussion. now you have us. Pictures please. we are addicted to muzzleloader porn.

 

[tenngun]

Get a small brass powder funnel. Plug the touch hole or place a seal over the nipple. Fill with water, let set a few minutes. Turn up an dump.
Repeat till water runs clea. Swab with wet patches. Then dry, oil
I pull a pinned barrel about once every three or four years. Wax the channel with a paste wax.

 

[oldwood]

Remove the lock. If it's flint lock , plug the touch hole. Pour warm water down the muzzle and wait a few min's. Dump the water out ,and repeat. Let sit for a couple mins. , Dump ,and run some patches down and back. Might spray a little WD in followed by some more patches. No need for detergent , soap , Phosphates are bad for the barrel steel . They didn't have soap on the frontier.
Percussion lock...........Let the perc. hammer down on the nipple with a piece of cloth on it. Most percussion drums have a clean out screw on the side. Unscrew the drum clean out screw all but a thread or two. Pour warm water in the barrel , allow to soak a bit. Put patch on the ramrod , remove the clean out screw from the nipple and push the water out of the bore through the nipple clean out screw hole. .........Repeat a couple times Run some patches throught the bore with a shot of WD so the patches don't stick in the bore. When all is clean and dry, ........done. Put some rust proofing oil in the bore and put the rifle muzzle down on a rag , and check in a couple days. oldwood

 

[necchi]

Out of curiosity, what kind of barrel can't be removed? Is like ... glued into the stock?

Good question, technically they can all be removed, it's not an absolute.
But rifles/pistols that use a full tang barrel and have a long fore-stock "pinned" to the barrel risk damage to the stock if a barrel is removed.
Everything can be fine for a few weeks or months when a gun is made, those pin's can be driven back out,, but with the nature of wood and the wood finishes and temp swings, moisture, etc,, knocking a pin out,, can knock out a big piece of the wood too
When that happens on a custom gun(?) It can be a sad thing,,,

 

[OldRust]

No need to remove the barrel if you don't want to. Just remove the percussion nipple or for a flintlock the lock and vent liner. Get a flushing adapter with the correct thread for your rifle. RMC and others make them. Two jugs of water, one with a touch of soap, the second of clean flushing water. A wet patch on the ram rod will draw the water in and out. I like a third empty jug to push the dirty water into as not to contaminate your first two jugs. I also like to add some weight on the water jug end. A hose adapter from the hardware store or big box store keeps the hose in the jug.

Thanks
O.R.

 

[William Lincoln]

RIG = RUST INHIBITING GREASE--- I've been using Mobil-1 synthetic-works fine.

 

[toot]

guns that have pinned barrels that are pushed out for cleaning and pushed bac after cleaning causes many times to splinter little Pices of the stock wood. so what do you do not to ruin a beautiful stock?