Civil War Belt Buckle with Minie Ball hole.

[springfield art]

Anyone ever set up a repro CW belt buckle and shoot a minie ball thru it? (Or pistol cap-n-ball). This is something done many times over the years; let's see some admission to this guilty pleasure! We've all seen them at gun shows over the years!

 

[hawkeye2]

I did it once, SNY repro buckle. Propped it up on the bench and put the muzzle of my Mississippi against the back side. About 30 grains if I remember and I had to chase the buckle for about 75 yards. A nice hole through the center with the ragged edges rolled back. I had a side business selling related items and other things and I put it up for about $1 more than I had in it. Listed it as a reproduction buckle with a reproduction mini hole through it. It was just an interesting experiment and I haven't felt like repeating it.

 

[springfield art]

Hi, Hawkeye; What I envisioned was using the belt plate (or crossbelt plate or ctg. box plate) as a target a combat range, maybe 25, 50, whatever yards, to simulate a fire-fight hit. We've seen the real ones in museums, and they're easy to "reproduce"; there've been more than One faker aging them and passing them off as real. Anyway, I want to try this soon with extra replica plates; a side comment; the plates are mostly very authentic copies, the high quality ones with real brass and lead. Thanks.

 

[Whitworth]

Hanover Brass makes beautiful repos for those so inclined

 

[barracudadave67]

All my C W buckles are from Hanover Brass, can't beat the quality.
But they would be an expensive target.
Why not just make some tagets of that size from card board,paint them yellow and use them,??.

Dave

 

[springfield art]

All my C W buckles are from Hanover Brass, can't beat the quality.
But they would be an expensive target.
Why not just make some tagets of that size from card board,paint them yellow and use them,??.

Dave

Well, you're right, but I think the idea is to have an actual buckle to duplicate the ones you see in museums.

 

[springfield art]

All my C W buckles are from Hanover Brass, can't beat the quality.
But they would be an expensive target.
Why not just make some tagets of that size from card board,paint them yellow and use them,??.

Dave

I was not aware of Hanover Brass, will be googling them. Thanks.

 

[springfield art]

Anyone ever set up a repro CW belt buckle and shoot a minie ball thru it? (Or pistol cap-n-ball). This is something done many times over the years; let's see some admission to this guilty pleasure! We've all seen them at gun shows over the years!

Ha, ha, yes, but usually the gun show ones are being offered as the real thing! I'm looking forward to getting out and making my own!

 

[Brazos John]

Ha, ha, yes, but usually the gun show ones are being offered as the real thing!

Of course they are!
I still want to know how they do the 2 bullets colliding in mid-air and sticking together!

 

[springfield art]

Of course they are!
I still want to know how they do the 2 bullets colliding in mid-air and sticking together!

Good question! I guess you could kind of meld or melt them together?? Someone no doubt has made one and offered it as 'real'.

 

[hawkeye2]

Mythbusters tried it on an episode and found it nearly impossible to do. I seem to remember they used an Enfield and a Springfield in rests carefully aligned and very close to each other. Anyway it was episode #67 and this was their results which seems to indicate one isn't going to be able to mass produce them in their back yard for sale on eBay.

"During the Civil War, two soldiers’ bullets collided in midair and fused together.
PLAUSIBLE

The MythBusters first tried to mount two Civil War rifles in front of each other so that when fired, the bullets would collide in midair. However, this proved impossible because they were unable to get the guns to fire at the same time. Instead, they aimed a single rifle at a bullet suspended in the air. The fired bullet hit dead center, and the MythBusters found that both bullets had fused together into a single mass. Though incredibly unlikely, it is possible for two bullets to collide and fuse together in midair."

 

[SDSmlf]

Mythbusters tried it on an episode and found it nearly impossible to do. I seem to remember they used an Enfield and a Springfield in rests carefully aligned and very close to each other. Anyway it was episode #67 and this was their results which seems to indicate one isn't going to be able to mass produce them in their back yard for sale on eBay.

"During the Civil War, two soldiers’ bullets collided in midair and fused together.
PLAUSIBLE

The MythBusters first tried to mount two Civil War rifles in front of each other so that when fired, the bullets would collide in midair. However, this proved impossible because they were unable to get the guns to fire at the same time. Instead, they aimed a single rifle at a bullet suspended in the air. The fired bullet hit dead center, and the MythBusters found that both bullets had fused together into a single mass. Though incredibly unlikely, it is possible for two bullets to collide and fuse together in midair."

Here is a relatively famous photograph from a WWI battlefield.

 

[LME]

Mythbusters tried it on an episode and found it nearly impossible to do. I seem to remember they used an Enfield and a Springfield in rests carefully aligned and very close to each other. Anyway it was episode #67 and this was their results which seems to indicate one isn't going to be able to mass produce them in their back yard for sale on eBay.

"During the Civil War, two soldiers’ bullets collided in midair and fused together.
PLAUSIBLE

The MythBusters first tried to mount two Civil War rifles in front of each other so that when fired, the bullets would collide in midair. However, this proved impossible because they were unable to get the guns to fire at the same time. Instead, they aimed a single rifle at a bullet suspended in the air. The fired bullet hit dead center, and the MythBusters found that both bullets had fused together into a single mass. Though incredibly unlikely, it is possible for two bullets to collide and fuse together in midair."

I believe that two bullets could fuse together. I read a Confederate soldiers account of the battle of Bull Run. He stated that when they were attacked they held their fire yntil they were almost upon them before firing.He said one union soldier he saw was hit by multible Minnie balls and he saw puffs of dust with each hit . That had to be a lot of bullets in the air. I also went to the Smithsonian and saw a section of a huge tree that was cut in half by musket fire.

 

[nhmoose]

Mythbusters also said a tracer bullet the trace comes from the paint on the tip of the bullet and their FBI former agent agreed. Ya they count for anything! Dopes

Anyone using Mythbusters just lost all credibility to me.

 

[hawkeye2]

There are documented relic minies that met head on during Civil War battles so it did happen under those conditions. At no time did I state that it was impossible for it to happen in a battle. Here are the posts I was replying to:

Of course they are!
I still want to know how they do the 2 bullets colliding in mid-air and sticking together!

Good question! I guess you could kind of meld or melt them together?? Someone no doubt has made one and offered it as 'real'."

These were referencing intentionally producing the results as opposed to finding fused bullets on the field after a battle, two entirely different conditions. I watched the show and saw and understood the issues they had in trying to make it happen in a controlled situation and I do support their conclusion that it is almost completely impossible to duplicate the results under controlled conditions. "Though incredibly unlikely, it is possible for two bullets to collide and fuse together in midair" (Mythbusters conclusion). It did happen under battle conditions and in more than just the ACW however what are the odds, how many million minies were fired before it did happen? I spent a lot of time digging lead from the backstop and I did find a minie that had struck the berm at our range and then another struck nose on into the base of the first but I can't begin to tell you how many minies I dug before I saw that one.

"Anyone using Mythbusters just lost all credibility to me."
Nhmoose with that you can be excused if you no longer wish to read any future posts I make.

 

[BuffaloSoldier]

I don't have a CW buckle with bullet hole in it, but I do have an Authentic CW belt buckle, found by my uncle. He was plowing a field in the vicinity of Appleton City, MO, saw a glint as the dirt rolled in the furrow. Gave it to me way back in late 60s-early 70s. I have it on display, in my "man corner!"

 

[Va Hunter]

I know a guy who did a lot of relic hunting. He has a yankee breast plate with a bullet hole in it.

 

[hanshi]

Mythbusters also said a tracer bullet the trace comes from the paint on the tip of the bullet and their FBI former agent agreed. Ya they count for anything! Dopes

Anyone using Mythbusters just lost all credibility to me.

I had a box of .30 caliber tracers for years but never fired one. The tracer compound was clearly visible in the bullet base; how could anyone think the bullet tip could do that. I gave the bullets to a friend who had a 30/06.

 

[nhmoose]

I had a box of .30 caliber tracers for years but never fired one. The tracer compound was clearly visible in the bullet base; how could anyone think the bullet tip could do that. I gave the bullets to a friend who had a 30/06.

Ask Mythbusters not me I know how a tracer works they DO NOT

I have fired many through my unmentionables NFA stuff, fun at night

 

[Bad Karma]

Somewhere around here I have pictures of tracer fire. I’m not a fan. It’s kinda useful. To both sides.