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I've found a gunsmith nearby in Georgia who is making these from scrap! I was aware of a some in Dagestan who make display pieces, but this guy builds working pieces.

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Thats so cool! I love seeing people keep history alive. Does he export???
 

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Thats so cool! I love seeing people keep history alive. Does he export???
I'm unsure of how that process would go on his end, but it's worth asking. He makes everything to order, I've seen him quote between $200-$400 for a lock, depending on decoration, unsure of an entire piece. PM me for his contacts.
 
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I'm unsure of how that process would go on his end, but it's worth asking. He makes everything to order, I've seen him quote between $200-$400 for a lock, depending on decoration, unsure of an entire piece. PM me for his contacts.
Will do. A lock by itself is a tempting opportunity for a project in the future.
 
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Will do. A lock by itself is a tempting opportunity for a project in the future.
Cyten: Great find via this gun builder in Georgia. WOW!! He does great work. Wish I were 10 years younger.

Actually, that Kibler kit variation is not a bad idea. You could order just the stock and barrel with barrel and ramrod inlet, Leave the lock panels square with no inlet and the butt stock left square with no inlets. You won't need the Siler lock, trigger(s), trigger guard, butt plate, etc. Just order a lock and ball trigger from the Georgia smith.

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Cyten: Great find via this gun builder in Georgia. WOW!! He does great work. Wish I were 10 years younger.

Actually, that Kibler kit variation is not a bad idea. You could order just the stock and barrel with barrel and ramrod inlet, Leave the lock panels square with no inlet and the butt stock left square with no inlets. You won't need the Siler lock, trigger(s), trigger guard, butt plate, etc. Just order a lock and ball trigger from the Georgia smith.

Rick
The Caucasian pistols also seem like a very digestible project, in both cost and commitment.
 

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Yes, what is his usual market? Is there a local antique shooting tradition, or are these mainly show-off pieces for the wealthy the way some of the fancy swords are being refurbished and new made in the Middle East?
 

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Yes, what is his usual market? Is there a local antique shooting tradition, or are these mainly show-off pieces for the wealthy the way some of the fancy swords are being refurbished and new made in the Middle East?

Muzzleloading is legal, however is regulated the same as shooting modern breechloaders. New shooters must own a smoothbore for 5 years before being permitted to own a rifled long gun (handguns are completely out of the question unless specifically granted to you by the president) this is of course after a mental health check, a doctor visit etc etc. Now that you have all that done, you may own 3 rifled guns and 5 smoothbores. Most people don't want to use their precious few spots for a muzzleloader, especially since black powder must be hand made, not available anywhere else. So, the majority of his customers are using them as decoration, no flash hole drilled.
However, I have never heard of muzzleloading being strictly regulated for the few who do it.
 

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IMA offerings are usually priced at a premium, but they take great photos. This is a nice plain example! Circassian lock with a clear makers mark, walrus ivory butt, and you can see the remains of the original leather sling in the rear sling slot! I think the description is odd, saying they were surprised it was rifled, smoothbores are very rare. Thanks for bringing this example up! Post pics if you buy it!
Original Caucusus Region Black Sea Miquelet Long Rifle with Gold Maker Marked Lock & Marine Ivory Butt Cap - Circa 1800
Hello, I'm new on this forum and I have an interest in Caucasian rifles, particularly ones with Circassian locks. I'm seriously considering buying this one as my first miquelet and if I do I'll post pictures. But I have a few concerns.
1: What would be a fair price for this gun? Would I be overpaying and if so is there anywhere else I should look for one?
2: The outside of the barrel looks to be in rough condition conpared to other examples. I understand these are made of Damascus steel, so would that make it unsafe to fire?
3: There doesn't appear to be a front sight. Is that typical of these? I saw one recently at the Baltimore antique arms show and it also didn't have a front sight, just 2 small gold lines at the muzzle. The seller told me these weapons didn't have any but I've seen examples online with front sights.
If this is the norm, how would one aim?
4: Are there any other things I should be concerned about with this one? You seem to be very knowledgeable about Caucasian guns.
 
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