Building ME a NW Trade Gun ! :)

[wganz]

Yep ....lots of original trade guns with rear sights on them. They were added later but it was very common and it helps a lot esp. at longer ranges . Mine will certainly have a rear sight on it .

Again, my copy is back in Louisiana at the moment, but want to say that there were cites of specifications of trade guns to be made with rear sights.
Until I get it back, will have to just leave it without citation.

 

[Rob M.]

Again, my copy is back in Louisiana at the moment, but want to say that there were cites of specifications of trade guns to be made with rear sights.
Until I get it back, will have to just leave it without citation.

Yeah , Carolina Guns / Type Gs were made with rear sights .... The vast majority of trade guns did not have rear sights , they were fowling pieces , and NW guns did not have rear sights from the makers .

 

[Hatman/2nd line]

Front lock bolt on mine ...and the F uck up .... Geesh ! Yeah , I'm so good ! The front bolt was half way I. The ramrod channel so I had to thread , plug and redrill it all ...$#@%&!!!

See the grumpy Gunsmith #46 on how to avoid this.

 

[Hatman/2nd line]

Front lock bolt on mine ...and the F uck up .... Geesh ! Yeah , I'm so good ! The front bolt was half way I. The ramrod channel so I had to thread , plug and redrill it all ...$#@%&!!!

Yeah, I had a gun built for me about 40 years ago by a great builder and the front bolt had a notch in it!

 

[Khufu]

and that great builder would likely tell you that it was so you had to pull the ramrod out to remove the lock bolt, a safety thing.
a master builder has nothing to prove, and would just say, I had too much coffee and was in a rush.

 

[Mzzlldrinpa]

Yeah, I had a gun built for me about 40 years ago by a great builder and the front bolt had a notch in it!

My fusil has a notch in the front lock bolt. There is a groove in the lock bolt to let ramrod pass under bolt. Notch on bolt head indicates position of groove on bolt shaft.

 

[Rob M.]

Stock , rear of mortices to roughed in shape .... used " ye old stock duplicator ' to do the job ....

 

[Rob M.]

My fusil has a notch in the front lock bolt. There is a groove in the lock bolt to let ramrod pass under bolt. Notch on bolt head indicates position of groove on bolt shaft.

Oh !! LOL ! I've had to do that before too ...but usually that is from the ramrod going UP a bit too much and making the web thin during drilling for the ramrod ....it happens .

 

[Rob M.]

Forge ye ole trigger guard ..... Still got to form the finials , early ones on this TG ......phone is not co operating at all .

 

[Rob M.]

.....forging out bow , start ...

 

[Rob M.]

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[Rob M.]

Put finials on ....

 

[Rob M.]

Drill the dreaded NW trade gun angle then drill and tap tang .... This one is pretty cool as the angle is really nice , not too steep of an angle as per usual . Different locks has different geometry to them .

 

[Rob M.]

Wow ! She's come a long ways ! Trimmed the side plate up and roughed in the rear mortices a bit , drilled TG for all screws , fit it and attached it , put curl on trigger and set it , of course , roughed in the stock today ...put lines on where I will work the wrist and comb , drilled the touch hole ....she is a working gun right now ! I could take her hunting ! I will VDO her first shot later ... I need a sear spring for it too, on its way . Later I will make the ramrod pipes and fit and pin them , then rough in the mortices forward , then a front blade on .... make a tapered ramrod . She will probably stay " in the rough " stage for awhile till I get caught up with some things but I really have to have her in shooting / hunting condition soon . She can be shot now but I need the other stuff done too I mentioned for it to be hunting ready . Been seeing turkey on my coffee trips !!

 

[Fatboyz]

Drill the dreaded NW trade gun angle then drill and tap tang .... This one is pretty cool as the angle is really nice , not too steep of an angle as per usual . Different locks has different geometry to them .

Do you fit the tang then drill/mark the bolt hole on the bottom of the tang from the bottom trigger side?

 

[Rob M.]

Do you fit the tang then drill/mark the bolt hole on the bottom of the tang from the bottom trigger side?

Exactly ...

 

[Fatboyz]

Did you tap and install a vent liner or just drill a touch hole?

 

[Fatboyz]

Exactly ...

I will need to do that to fit my smoothbore barrel into my Traditions Kentucky stock.

 

[Rob M.]

I will need to do that to fit my smoothbore barrel into my Traditions Kentucky stock.

If you have a trigger plate you can drill down from tang to the plate ... Either will work

 

[Rob M.]

Did you tap and install a vent liner or just drill i

I just drilled a touch hole .