Buckle style

[brazosland]

See buckle in pic. Is this buckle any more or less appropriate for F&I period (1760s) or early furtrade (1810)?

Seems like the round buckle is earlier, but curious if anyone has an educated opinion?

 

[Brokennock]

See buckle in pic. Is this buckle any more or less appropriate for F&I period (1760s) or early furtrade (1810)?

Seems like the round buckle is earlier, but curious if anyone has an educated opinion?

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Good question.
Hopefully @Beau Robbins or @Capt. Jas. will chime in. Mr. Robbins knows his stuff when it comes to period clothing and I believe Mr. James Rogers (I can't just say Mr. Rogers without the kids show popping in my head, lol) has a good collection of original period buckles.

Do remember, using something from an earlier time for a later time can work,,,, to an extent. Obviously this can be taken too far.

 

[user 34486]

You'd do well with a double d, d, or maybe even an oval, but that one's pretty far off. You can find a plethora of originals online to get an idea from and there's quite a few vendors of cheap basic patterns.

 

[brazosland]

You'd do well with a double d, d, or maybe even an oval, but that one's pretty far off. You can find a plethora of originals online to get an idea from and there's quite a few vendors of cheap basic patterns.

Could you clarify for me…pretty far off from what?

 

[user 34486]

Pretty far off from an 18th c example of a brass belt buckle. If you look at originals you'll commonly see D shapes, double D, and oval. What you're unlikely to see is a perfectly round one as shown above.

 

[Brokennock]

Could you clarify for me…pretty far off from what?

These folks have a good selection of buckles. Toward the bottom of the 1st page, after the shoe buckles, you should start to see some double-D shapes. Often they have a mention of where the original example of the buckle they are recreating was found.

Edit: forgotten link added in a reply below

 

[Capt. Jas.]

If you want to portray an 18th century Spaniard you could possibly file some decorative spirals in the buckle. This 1775 painting by Goya shows the widest waiste belt I have seen for the period.

 

[French Colonial]

These folks have a good selection of buckles. Toward the bottom of the 1st page, after the shoe buckles, you should start to see some double-D shapes. Often they have a mention of where the original example of the buckle they are recreating was found.

Who are these folks?

 

[andy52]

The early fur trade, possible, I have one very just like it in forge iron. For F&I I'd go with a rectangle brass, I don't most people even notice a buckle.

 

[user 34486]

By the 19th c, unfortunately, you'll see the snake hooks and belt plates predominate.

 

[brazosland]

These folks have a good selection of buckles. Toward the bottom of the 1st page, after the shoe buckles, you should start to see some double-D shapes. Often they have a mention of where the original example of the buckle they are recreating was found.

Do you have a link you wanted to add?

 

[Brokennock]

Who are these folks?

Yeah, it would have helped if I included the link,,,, (TBI micro tears are real)

These guys have buckles,

Buckles

www.thequartermastergeneral.com

 

[toot]

how about PITATE FASIONS?

 

[blackhorse]

Pitater faces ???

 

[brazosland]

how about PITATE FASIONS?

Well I guess spell check wasn’t a thing in the 18th century…literacy wasn’t either…so you are tracking well there!

But, given the nautical nature of the colonies and the proximity of populations to ports, it’s not out of the realm of possibility for a pirate buckle to find its way into use.

 

[Jaeger]

Yeah, it would have helped if I included the link,,,, (TBI micro tears are real)

These guys have buckles,

Buckles

www.thequartermastergeneral.com

I looked over Brokennock's suggested site, and The Quartermaster General looks like it has some useful clothing and items for the reenactor! Has anyone bought clothing from them before?

 

[RanchRoper]

Hmmmm, I have this one coming from Crazy Crow...no idea if period correct or not for early 1800's. But it will replace a very large square brass one I have on a 3" belt.

 

[Brokennock]

I looked over Brokennock's suggested site, and The Quartermaster General looks like it has some useful clothing and items for the reenactor! Has anyone bought clothing from them before?

I've bought several items from them. Always been happy with the products and the customer service.
I have one article of clothing I have purchased that I'm not thrilled with,,, but it is an item that is available from Crazy Crow and possibly Jas. Townsend as well. I am uncertain which place I got it from. It seems a generic mass produced item sold by a few vendors so I can't pin it's faults on the vendor.
I do have a couple of small buckles from Quartermaster General and like them, I haven't used then enough to determine if there could be a flaw that would effect longevity.

 

[Jaeger]

I've bought several items from them. Always been happy with the products and the customer service.
I have one article of clothing I have purchased that I'm not thrilled with,,, but it is an item that is available from Crazy Crow and possibly Jas. Townsend as well. I am uncertain which place I got it from. It seems a generic mass produced item sold by a few vendors so I can't pin it's faults on the vendor.
I do have a couple of small buckles from Quartermaster General and like them, I haven't used then enough to determine if there could be a flaw that would effect longevity.

I'm thinking of buying a pair of woolen knee breeches from them to wear at our winter camp. Their description of the breeches sounds good, but.....

 

[user 34486]

Their clothing is basically paki grade (probably paki), machine sewn with poor patterning, and made with substandard materials. You get what you pay for, so be aware. The vendor is good for certain nicknacks like stockings or whatever, customer service, immediate needs to get you by, but not really selling anything great.