Brown Bess-like short Land pattern, lockplate marked '1756 Edge', but in 65-cal?

[Hatman/2nd line]

I've been getting all your beautiful photos! Wish I had a 10th of your skill!

 

[rickystl]

Interesting Thread. As long as we have the attention of you Members with better knowledge of British guns than myself, let me sneak in here and ask a quick question. Here are some pics of a custom in my collection. I call it an English Fowler/Officers Fusil. It has a 41.5" all-round, tapered barrel in .62 caliber. Which of the two names I mention would be more accurate ? Maybe both ? Thanks.

Rick

 

[Loyalist Dave]

So we'll start off admitting this appears to be an Indian import of 'something' like a Bess, but what would that something be? I saw it today in my local toy store.

The barrel is 37" and the bore is a straight 65-caliber, not the 75-caliber typical of the Bess family. Online the only evidence that I can find for lockplates marked '1756 Edge' are from 1st model Land patters of the 1756 models, but they were 75-bore and longer barrels.

I will say ... being shorter in length and smaller in bore size … it is soooooooo much more handier than any Bess ever thought to be, lol! Any ideas?

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So I have one from Loyalist Arms LLC and it's their Serjeant's Carbine. Shoot well, even though not a very good copy of the true 1756 Artillery Carbine.

LD

 

[FlinterNick]

So I have one from Loyalist Arms LLC and it's their Serjeant's Carbine. Shoot well, even though not a very good copy of the true 1756 Artillery Carbine.

LD

Agree with LD, it’s just not a good copy of what it’s intended to be. The parts are oddly undersized in some places and bulky in others. The wood of course is teak which will need to be died several times to get the right color and tone of walnut.

 

[PathfinderNC]

Interesting Thread. As long as we have the attention of you Members with better knowledge of British guns than myself, let me sneak in here and ask a quick question. Here are some pics of a custom in my collection. I call it an English Fowler/Officers Fusil. It has a 41.5" all-round, tapered barrel in .62 caliber. Which of the two names I mention would be more accurate ? Maybe both ? Thanks.

Rick

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This is a really handsome long gun!

 

[Grenadier1758]

@rickystl, if it looked like a scaled down version of a Brown Bess, but simply in 65 caliber, it could be an officer's fusil or artillery musket, or even a version of the 1756 infantry carbine. The architecture and carving on the side plate and trigger guard bring it into the English Fowling Gun description.

 

[rickystl]

This is a really handsome long gun!

Thanks Pathfinder.

Rick

 

[rickystl]

@rickystl, if it looked like a scaled down version of a Brown Bess, but simply in 65 caliber, it could be an officer's fusil or artillery musket, or even a version of the 1756 infantry carbine. The architecture and carving on the side plate and trigger guard bring it into the English Fowling Gun description.

Thanks Grenadier. Now I have the two terminologies with a more accurate description.

Rick