black powder drilling

[De Feyter]

I have a drilling-two shotgun on the top with a rifle
on the bottom. I would say the bottom is about a 30 cal and the top two are about a 12ga.
The third hammer pulls down from the bottom of the gun for the rifle.
It has been handed down through the family and was always told that it was carried by one of the men that surveyed for the city of Grand Rapids.
I can find no markings on it at all.
Can anyone help me id this gun more. I will try and send pics.
Thank you,
Craig

 

[TFoley]

I have a drilling-two shotgun on the top with a rifle
on the bottom. I would say the bottom is about a 30 cal and the top two are about a 12ga.
The third hammer pulls down from the bottom of the gun for the rifle.
It has been handed down through the family and was always told that it was carried by one of the men that surveyed for the city of Grand Rapids.
I can find no markings on it at all.
Can anyone help me id this gun more. I will try and send pics.
Thank you,
Craig

Welcome!

And, as you've probably guessed by now, without pics we can do nothing for you except say 'gee whiz'! :thumbsup:

Happy New Year!

tac

PS - If it is German or Belgian it will be slathered with marks. Have you taken the barrels off to see?

 

[Mike Brooks]

Cartridge gun? It's probably english, belgian or german...gotta have pics.

 

[TFoley]

Cartridge gun? It's probably english, belgian or german...gotta have pics.

Mr Brooks - respectfully - the English did not and still do not make drillings.

That's a furrin thang.

tac

 

[Mike Brooks]

Sorry! :haha: :thumbsup:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_gun

 

[CoyoteJoe]

I once owned a Ed Kettner German dilling 16 gauge over 9.3x72R, blackpowder cartridge gun with exposed hammers but from your description it sounds like a muzzleloader. Probably hand made one of a kind, identifying the maker would be difficult but we'd all like to see photos.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I saw a Muzzleloader drilling at the Allentown (Pa) Gun Show about 30 yrs ago. Standard two shotgun barrels with rifle beneath, but the rifle barrel was a sort of underhammer thing. Wish I could remember more about it. The trigger guard was very heavy and fastened directly to underside of the breech blocks I suppose for added support.

 

[dyemaker]

I have seen photos of SxS shotguns with two percussion hammers on top and an underhammer ignition rifle barrel on bottom before a couple were drillings so it wouldn't be one of a kind.

 

[De Feyter]

Not anything but a real muzzel loader--does not break open for a shell.
Powder is put down the muzzel/patch / ball or shot then ramed home with eather of the wooden rods.
I will send pics as soon as I can.
Craig

 

[De Feyter]

I don't feel like I should take it apart.I don't want to chance breaking something.
No markings any place on the outside.
Craig

 

[Trench]

Okay, here's the photos. :grin:

 

[dyemaker]

I have no clue who made it but I like the underhammer. The ring looks better than a regular hammer would.

 

[arquebus]

Looks like an American-made percussion drilling, with regular back-action locks for the smoothbores & an underhammer action for the rifled barrel, probably dates to the 1840-50s. I've never seen one before, but have seen a number of American-made percussion combination guns (1x smooth, 1x rifled). That would also explain the lack of proof marks, which would be seen on any european gun of the period.
Out of curiosity, which trigger operates the underhammer?

 

[F.G. Ford]

Very nice gun.
For sure a one of a kind.
The condition seem to be very good.
No name on/in the locks?
Old Ford

 

[Mike Brooks]

First impression, New York.

 

[De Feyter]

First trigger works the botton ring hammer.
Any idea what this is worth?

 

[De Feyter]

I do not see any markings any place on the gun.
I do have to tell you that a few years ago I took it to a gun show. A man that was set up with a few powder guns looked it over and offered me $150.00 becuase he said it was a newer kit gun.
I told him that I am 64 years old and that my Dad had it before I was born--I just got that (look) from him.

 

[Trench]

It's deffinitely worth more than $150. :grin:

 

[dyemaker]

I thought the same thing but I don't really know why.... New York?