"Best" Number 10/11 Caps?

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    ugly old guy

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    I know "back in the day" Eley Bros. percussion caps were considered the "best" you could get.
    Unfortunately, it seems they went away in the early to mid 1970's.

    Who took over the top spot when Eley Bros shut shop?
     
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    Oh Joy! (daRn ... she run away)
    According to the Internet one of the local sporting goods stocks RWS number 11's. :)
    I thought they only stocked the RWS musket caps last time I was there.
     
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    Beware of caps. I use nothing but CCI and Rem. The cups do not shatter like RWS or many Italian caps. I have had to pull shards of caps from my chin, nose and had a scratch on shooting glasses from brittle metal.
     
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    "caps?" Somebody please explain. What is this word?
     
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    percussion "caps"..... plural of "cap"
     
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    I use CCI for years and have no problems or issues with them. They are readily available. My friend likes Remington caps.
     
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    Probably best to figure out why or how you mistakenly stumbled into the ‘percussion’ sub-forum and don’t do it again. No need cluttering up your vocabulary with new and unnecessary words.
     
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    I use CCI. Have had a couple lots of Remington 10s with a high percentage (5+ out of 100) with priming charge missing. No response back from Remington.
     
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    I use CCI #11 standard or magnum,or winchester std capes. I have used the Remingtons, but they tend to jam up in my capper as they are a few thousands taller than the CCI caps.
     
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    I haven’t been impressed with RWS #11s. Their musket caps are very good, but I’ve had their #11s shatter and split many times, spraying shrapnel all over and getting stuck in the hammer nose. Never again.

    Remington #10s are superb. I have had one or two without priming compound in the past but it seems they corrected the issue. They never come apart, yet are hot and consistent. Fit all my guns too. Misfires with them are virtually nonexistent.
     
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    Part of an ignition system intended to replace flint but don't concern yourself, it'll never catch on. :)
     
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    Problems I had with with Remington caps was a few years ago when I was shooting SASS. Would have two or three misfires in every match because of missing priming charge. Have not used Remington since, but as you state and from what I am hearing, they have corrected their issues. Have 10k plus of CCIs I need to go through before trying again.
     
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    Standard CCI no 11’s for me. They light every time the hammer falls, no problems. Flintleather
     
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    Back around 1980+/- I got a Ruger OA. Remington 10's were the only thing that fit the nipples. I used those and 11 size on my rifle for a couple years until 10-20% of all the caps had the fillings fall out during shipment. I bought replacement nipples from Uncle Mike's for the ROA and switched to CCI caps and have never changed back. I suppose after almost 40 years Remington has fixed the problem. I have tried the Winchester Magnum and they seem to work just fine too, but every load I have developed was with CCI and don't want to sight all my percussion weapons in again.
     
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    FWIW: I've heard of problems with older Remington caps. I've used some CURRENT production Remington caps with ZERO issues. In my 40+ yrs of shooting a couple of caplock rifles the very best I've ever found are Dynamit-Nobel 1075's.
     
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    I believe Remington has ceased percussion cap production recently. Dynamit Nobel are 100% reliable over the last 30yrs for me.
     
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    Good morning SDSmlf. This is more so just a comment that happened to a friend of mine that is just getting into percussion muzzleloaders. He bought a whole line of things connected with muzzleloading including the rifle that was secondhand and all the trappings that he thought he would need. He's an ex military fellow and enjoys guns and is over 65. He had a tin Of regular size Remington caps that he was using and he would have to fire each one of them twice in order to get them to shoot. It appeared just like maybe the hammer wasn't dropping hard enough to set the cap off. In my assortment of Paraphernalia I had a tin of Remington Magnum same number caps, I I don't remember if they were 10s or 11s, But they were both the same number size. On inspecting them Side-by-side, we discovered that the Magnum was a tiny bit larger, so we decided to try a couple. They worked every time apparently the regular caps didn't go down quite far enough on the nipple and the first attempt seated them, the second attempt fired them. We are now suspicious is that the reason that the rifle was up for sale. I haven't shot percussion for several years, I just happened to have these in my muzzleloader toolbox. At first we were going to try a different nipple, but we didn't have one with those that was the proper thread size. When I quit using my precaution gun I was using Mike's hotshot nipples and I really like them, but the one I had with me wouldn't fit his rifle, it was way too small of the thread size. I don't remember offhand the brand of rifle, this all happened about three months ago. I'm not aware if this type of cap is still available, but it sure made his rifle shoot.
    Squint
     
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    It’s a small round metal container with 100 small objects in it that go rattle when you shake it.

    you put that container in your flintlock hammer and tighten down the jaw.

    Place on half cock, prime yer pan, close yer frizzen.

    Cock hammer fully back and then pull the trigger! The small metal container will smack open yer frizzen.

    Lastly, instead of a rock you can use that small round noisy container!

    Black Powder 101.

    Respectfully, Einstein Cowboy
     
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    Zonie and I, among others, have said that if it takes two hammer falls to fire the cap on the nipple, the problem is that the nipple cone is oversize. Personally, I like to insert the nipple in an appropriately sized nut to hold in a hand drill or chuck the nipple on the round shoulder. Use a fine file or sandpaper to taper the cone so the cap fits all the way down. Do determine the correct thread size for the nipple to buy a replacement. One will be needed eventually.
     
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    I agree that using a nut to protect the threads is the way to go but the nuts for a 6 mm or a 1/4" thread are usually too large to clamp in the chuck on most electric drills.
    That's why I said I clamp the jaws of the drill chuck on the outside diameter of the nipple rather than clamping directly on the threads.
    Nipples are hardned so some people have got away with clamping directly on the threads but IMO, there's too much of a chance of boogering up the threads by doing this.

    If I'm going to do something like drill a hole thru a set screw to make a flintlock vent, I cut thru one wall of the nut so it will easily collapse on the threads when it's in the vise or locking pliers.
     
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