Beaver fur hats

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    Ive seen afew beaver fur trapper hats and always think, a trapper wouldnt make himself a beaver skin hat,that was his bread and butter,muskrat or coon maybe , but not the beavdr.what are ylur thoughts?
     
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    Not sure if you are talking about a "hat" made from a skin with the hair/fur still on it or a hat made from Beaver Felt? I think you are referring to the hair/fur covered skin hats, though, because Mountain Men/Trappers really did not have a way to make Beaver Felt hats?

    I agree it would have been at best silly to make such a hat out of Beaver as it was the most valuable pelt with which to trade in quantity, until it lost out to buffalo robes. (Ermine and some other pelts were often worth more than Beaver, but they were much more difficult to get in quantity and make a living with, than beaver.)

    A skin hat made from Fox, Wolf, Coyote, Coon and some other hides would not have taken away near as much market/trade value as would using a Beaver Pelt for such a hat.

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    Not a felt hat, a
    skin cap
     
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    I agree with that statement. Almost any other fur bearer would make sense, but beaver fur was money, and too valuable to wear.
     
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    I see a lot of vendors offering fur felt "slouch" hats for the eighteenth century, usually as blanks. What fur, if any, would be period correct?
     
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    Not a felt hat,a FUR cap ,there are some referances to fur caps mostly conn , skunk , or muskrat. But not beaver
     
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    A fellow I worked railroadin' with had a skunk hat.
    One night he walked out of the yard office, started across the tracks, and a great horned owl swooped down and latched onto the hat!

    I don't know who was more startled, the man, or the owl - who never heard a skunk screaming like that before. :haha:

    Richard/Grumpa
     
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    True fur felt should be beaver, many will be mixed today. Some fur some wool.
     
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    Tenngun, look at the hat in your avatar, this is what Im talking about
     
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    I agree with the above that such hats would be made of fur that didn't have a high dollar value. Wolf, bear, ect would have been more likely I think. Check out 'Canadian' caps, wool and fur mixed. I would tend think such hats were more popular at modern rendezvous then real life
     
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    :rotf: Good Grief, a Great Horned Owl is a BIG BIRD to swoop down on the guy and I'll bet when he sank his talons into the Hat Wearer, it gave the Hat Wearer great cause for alarm!! He may have thought he was being attacked by a Demon.

    GREAT Story! :thumbsup: :rotf:

    Gus
     
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    Something like this?

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    I have a hat like Tenngun's, and it is muskrat fur.
     
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    Isn't that what is referred to as a "free trapper" hat? I have one in full beaver fur.
     
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    Kit Carson (Post 1840) was described as wearing a coonskin cap with fox tails attached.
    On the Felt- different thing but I think most of the trappers had cheap felt made from wool.
     
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    Beaver Hat.jpg
    Got this one as a birthday gift from my kids back in the day.
     
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    My hat in the avatar is a woolen wheel cap
     
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    Great looking cap. There are so many excellent choices, it's hard to decide what to acquire and what to pass on.
    I'm partial to my green wool highlanders bonnet, but there aren't many Rogers Rangers here in Central FL.
     
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    When I was looking to have a hat made that matched the Jeremiah Johnson hat the shop owner said that most hats back then were made out of beaver because they were very durable makes sense the last thing you'd want is not to have a hat in those conditions ? He also used a contraption used in the 1800's to get a size and shape of my head and make the hat custom and it fits perfectly and it was not cheap it takes 7 or 8 beaver pelts to make one hat.
     

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    In the upper country of canada, the Hivernaunts and natives made winter clothes from beaver and when it was time to frieght their plews back, the accumulated oils and sweat made the hides worth more and were known as grease pelts
     

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