Went yesterday for another range test. I was shooting to the left 3' at 25yds ,so I took the barrel off and heated the front turtle site and moved it a tad left. I tryed ffg this time with the .690 ball and .017 patch with 1/2" fiberwad over powder. I shot off the rest 3 times,very good 3-balls cloverleafing dead center 1" over the x. Then I shot offhand 2-sets of 5 shots all grouped 3"to 4". The measure was set at 11/8oz of ffg. I will have to get my scale and find out wieght of this 11/8oz charge. It sounded good and the kick was less than the fffg same volume. Squrriel season starts this week and I will try the 12bore with shot.