Asking for assistance on identifying a Muzzleloader

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  1. Nov 26, 2019 #1

    Charles L Finn

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  2. Nov 26, 2019 #2

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    Looks like "poor" on barrel top and looks like thomas green inscription on patch box.
    video was too fast moving....Thomas Green 1697-1728 who may or not may be connected to your rifle. Just dont know that much about him...London builder? redo the video going slower on the details

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    Just a hint for watching videos:
    While the video is running, if you poke the K on your keyboard it will freeze the picture so you can examine it more closely. When your done looking at it, poke the K again and the video will resume playing.

    To me, the gun looks like something that was possibly made in the 1830-1840 time period.
    It was always a percussion gun and this time period is fairly early in the making of this type of gun. It is also fairly late in the period that had full patchboxes like the gun has. (Later percussion guns often came with "cap boxes" which are much smaller than a patchbox.)
     
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    Charles L Finn

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    I well get more detail next week. Thanks
     
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    To me the inscription on the barrel reads P. GORT[?}xxxxxxx

    Does that make any more sense to anybody?
     
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    Peter Gonter, Lancaster? He died about 1818 so may be too early.
     
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    Charles L Finn

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    P. Gonter is listed on the gun barrel.
     
  8. Dec 2, 2019 at 7:18 PM #8

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    That is precisely what was on mine, as well.
     
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    Despite what may be "P. Gonter" on the barrel, this rifle looks very much like a circa 1840 New England rifle stocked in faded curly cherry wood. The patchbox has New England details, and the single trigger and oval lock bolt washer are also frequently found on New England rifles. Check the stock wood closely to see if you can determine if it is cherry. Shelby Gallien
     
  10. Dec 4, 2019 at 2:31 PM #10

    Charles L Finn

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    Thanks much and will do. Wonder what the Thos Green on the patchbox means?
     
  11. Dec 4, 2019 at 6:38 PM #11

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    From what I recall of my Peter Gonter long rifle, his name was written in cursive script as P. Gonter to be read from holding the gun with the lock facing the holder. As a long shot, if it ever turns up back in the USA, it has my full name written in ink on a piece of paper glued on the bottom flat of the barrel, along with my date of birth.
     
  12. Dec 4, 2019 at 6:40 PM #12

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    Thos. (Thomas) Green is a not uncommon name. Howzabout it being the former original owner?
     
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    Thomas Green is/was a previous owner, is my guess.

    At one time it was not unusual to put your name on your arms.
     

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