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Armi Sport 1853 3-Band Enfield serial?

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Does anyone know if it's possible to find the date of manufacture of a Armi Sport 1853 Enfield with the serial number? My serial is 0435.
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to find the date of manufacture of a Armi Sport 1853 Enfield with the serial number? My serial is 0435.
There should also be a box with either Roman numerals or two capital letters in it. These are Italian dating codes my friend.

I think if I’m not mistaken in the How to and Charts and references subforum of this forum, there is a chart to match up the date on your muzzleloader my friend.

Hope this helps you?

Respectfully, Cowboy
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to find the date of manufacture of a Armi Sport 1853 Enfield with the serial number? My serial is 0435.
As Cowboy said, there should be a small box next to the proof marks stamping with a letter or Roman numeral in it.

That is the date code for when the gun was proofed.

Click on this link to see a lot of information about interpreting these codes. It is a PDF file so you will need Adobe or some other software to open it. If your not sure, click on it anyway. If your computer/phone has the ability to open it, it will.

http://www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf
 
Parts (actual parts) for a Chiappa Enfield 1853 and my Armi Sport Enfield 1853 made in 1976 are compatible?
 
The answer may depend on what parts are you asking about. Many may be possible to fit. Many of the parts are pattern built. This means that they may look the same but are slightly different in actual size.
 
The answer may depend on what parts are you asking about. Many may be possible to fit. Many of the parts are pattern built. This means that they may look the same but are slightly different in actual size.

I need mostly screws but some rear sight parts too.
 
To save some of you from having to look 'em up all the time, I've copied them out for you from 1945 to 2015.

OK?

I = 1945, II =46, III = 47, IV = 48, V = 49, VI = 50, VII = 51, VIII = 52, IX = 53, X = 54, XI = 55, XII = 56, XIII = 57, XIV = 58, XV = 59, XVI = 60, XVII = 61, XVIII = 62, XIX = 63, XX =64, XXI = 65, XXII = 66, XXIII = 67, XXIV = 68, XXV = 69, XXVI = 70, XVII = 71, XXVII - 72, XXIX = 73, XXX = 74, AA = 75, AB = 76, AC = 77, AD =78, AE = 79, AF =80, AH = 81, AI = 82, AL = 83, AM = 84, AN = 85, AP = 85, AS = 87, AT = 88, AU = 89, AZ = 90, BA = 91, BB = 92, BC = 93, BD = 94, BF = 95, BH = 96, BI = 97, BL = 98, BM = 99, BN = 2000, BP = O1, BS =02, BT = 03, BU = 04, BZ = 05, CA = 06, CB = 07, CC =08, CD = 09, CF = 10, CH = 11, CJ = 12, CM 13, CN = 14, CP =15.

Phew.......
 
TFoley and Grenadier 1758: Thank you for the data.
To help people using the forums How-to Articles, Charts and Technical References section which has the link to the date codes, I added your information to the topic there.
As TFoley says, there are letters that were unused and without a reference it can be hard to figure out what some of the codes are.

Here's a link to the revised information. (I hope it is correct but when all is said and done, if it is off a year or two it won't cause the sky to fall. I can't think of a reason a person would need to know the exact year their gun was proofed beyond just idle curiosity. )

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/modern-replica-dating-by-proof-marks.49482/
 
Zonie, the reference section of the Dixie Gun works catalog[ue] is also a great source of serial number fro REAL firearms like Colt, Winchester, Remington and others.
 
Yup. There is little, if any, detectable use of the letters J, W and Y in modern-day standard Italian - of course, they make a sound like it - Giulio - Julio and so on. My Sicilian pizza specialist restaurant owner is called 'Villi' because his English mom named him William, after HER dad, but none of the Sicilian side of the family can pronounce it.
 
I was referring to the original Colt, Winchester and Remington rifles and pistols.
So was I.

The time limit for the forum ends in 1865 and the only cartridge guns that are allowed are those which use primer-less cases.
All guns that use cartridges with self contained primers are not allowed by forum rules.
 
OK, I'll take the hit for Winchester and Remington, but the front-loading Colt and its variants, the Root and the Bacon surely count? As does the LeMat?
 
Actually, talking about handguns is a bit out of place here in the Percussion Rifle section but now that they have been mentioned, I'll carry on a bit:

Any of the revolvers that do not use metallic cartridges with built in primers are fine for discussion here. This includes the Root, Bacon and LeMat.
Basically, if the cylinder loads from the front, using non-metallic paper or foil cartridges or loose powder and ball or bullet they all qualify.

The same revolvers when converted to use metallic, self-primed cartridges however, are not OK.
This includes not talking about the conversion cylinders that were popular in the late 1860's thru 1873 even though both Remington and Colt produced them using various Patents at the time, and the modern recreations of them.

Now, back to the 3 band Enfield. :)
 
Thanks for the elucidation, Zonie.

NOW, a fellow shooter here in UK has been looking for a two-band Parker-Hale rifle in .451cal, IMO THE most elegant of them all, and I've found one for him in my LGS. It has been there, TBH, at least five years, but I wasn't looking for one myself. I've just been over to take a look and was astounded. The serial number is 203, making it the lowest serial number I've ever seen, and apart from a slight scrape - easily fixed - on the wood opposite the lock, it is in remarkable condition. If it has fired ten shots I'd be amazed. AND it was £600 cheaper than one offered by a well-known dealer in the North, whose price went up from £900 to £1300 when he got a whiff of interest.

They ARE out there, aren't they?
 
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