I have an Ardesa Hawken in .451 with the 1:20 twist, shoots conical bullets through the same hole at 100m, I have shot steel at 200m but couldn't see where the shot was falling at 300m to adjust the sights properly. One day I want to see if I can take it out to 600yards, but need the ranges to open first!I have an Ardessa in .45 that i paid too much for. Unless you need to hit what you are shooting at. Most accurate muzzleloader i own, and therefore one of the most fun to shoot.
mid 1970`s model.
I for one like it. NO BELLS & WHISTLES!! nothing that is not needed!A guy on a local gun exchange site had posted for sale a couple of .50 caliber muzzle loaders. One was an Ardesa mountain rifle made in Spain, and the other was a TC New Englander. I'd saved them in my box and was in the process of clearing it out with item that had sold when I noticed these two hadn't. For fun I made the guy an insanely low offer which I figured he would refuse. Much to my surprise, he accepted and now I'm the proud owner of a couple more cap locks. I'm curious about the Ardesa as I'd never heard of it before. Therefore, I'll post a couple pictures of it for your comments. Two things I want to do with it is to remove the modern (Thompson Center looking) rear sight and dovetail it for a traditional one, and remove what's left of the barrel bluing and brown it. Other than that it is has a solid walnut stock and a full, 1 inch thick 32 inch barrel. Needless to say, it is quite heavy. Obviously solidly built.
That rifle has some notable differences from the CVA Mountain Rifle. The lock is very different from the usual "Maslin" style that CVA used and the nose cap/entry pipe area is much more elegantly developed. The CVA version generally used a maple stock. I've never seen one with a walnut stock before. I don't know what you have there, but it is definitely a cut above the CVA product in terms of style and finish. You did well.I agree about the sights. Well, if any of you guys are impressed enough with this rifle, it's twin is on Gunbroker right now..only it's in a .54!!. I saw it a few days ago and was tempted.......
I agree 100%, about the only resemblance to a CVA Mountain rifle is that they are both half stock with 2 wedges.That rifle has some notable differences from the CVA Mountain Rifle. The lock is very different from the usual "Maslin" style that CVA used and the nose cap/entry pipe area is much more elegantly developed. The CVA version generally used a maple stock. I've never seen one with a walnut stock before. I don't know what you have there, but it is definitely a cut above the CVA product in terms of style and finish. You did well.
That rifle has some notable differences from the CVA Mountain Rifle.
The CVA version generally used a maple stock. I've never seen one with a walnut stock before.
Since black powder is supposed to regularly generate 25/30 thousand pounds of pressure and U.S. Army tests back in the day achieved over 90,000lbs. of pressure with black powder they had Back Then, I'm leery of anything tested to such a low standard even though my first ML rifle was a CVA Kentucky. I guess since America has no proof houses, we should trust ourselves to the excellent reputations of foreign testing, and the forbearance of barrel steels.Please send that pipe bomb off to be tested before you subject your face to the Spanish proof of only about 10,700lbs test. Just saying...
Now that's how you answer a question! That was great.Hello. As I live in Spain I can give you some information about that Ardesa replica of the Hawken. That model and also in caliber 50 was the first rifle that I bought in 1988, when I was 25 years old. If it is a 50 caliber, it has a 66" twist. Therefore, it is a good rifle to shoot with a round ball, especially with not very high loads, since the groove is not very deep. At 50 meters it groups very well with 50 grains of black powder. Swiss No. 2 (3fff). Use 0.490 ball and 0.015" linen patch. And trade the rear sight for a semi-buckhorn. Walnut wood is of good quality and if it takes away the shine you can finish it with linseed oil, in a more natural way and with a very beautiful darker color. The nipple is metric thread 6x100. It is a very good heavy rifle for competitions for 50 meters (55 yards) or for hunting, but with a round bullet, because with a maxi bullet I don't think it will group well.
If the nipple does not transmit fire well, you may need to remove the side drum and trim it so that the fire from the nipple communicates well with the breech that closes the barrel. You can also change the side drum for a good quality steel one, like the one you sell for Spanish guns Track of the Wolf (from Dikar-CVA- and Ardesa -Traditions-).
Greetings from Spain.