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kyle_kalasnik

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Good evening to all. I am in the process of looking to purchase a original Charleville Model 1763 or Brown Bess that was carried by American Troops, during the Revolutionary War.

I have found a few on other sites that are available. But I was just wondering if anyone here had one they would be willing to sell/trade or could point me in that direction.

I will not be shooting this as it’ll be a wall hanger.

Thank you all in advance. Take care.

Respectfully,
Kyle Kalasnik
 

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Before you buy one, it may behoove you to post it here for advice. There are some incredibly knowledgeable people here who can analyze the authenticity of a gun down to the microscopic level, and do to the propensity of fakes in our world, this is always a good idea. I prefer the "defarb" approach, because you are essentially getting a gun as issued, and there is no provenance you have to maintain, and you can shoot it with a clear conscience.
 

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I would also post this over on the AmericanLongrifles.org forum. When talking about "original" RevWar arms, there is some degree of latitude required. It is my understanding very few have survived in their original state.
 

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If you are looking for an original that is in collector grade condition I think nit wit is giving good advice to go to the auction houses or places that sell antique US military long guns. I have purchased several antique muskets from Dixie in the past, I found their appraisals to be good AND AND AND they offer an inspection policy. If you don't like it you can return it and just pay for the shipping (both ways). I would not buy a gun from this era without an inspection period or some damn fine photos showing the detail. I have been disappointed when I haven't done this.

Dixie has one and it is in very fine condition which is the lowest end of collector's grade.

 

kyle_kalasnik

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Before you buy one, it may behoove you to post it here for advice. There are some incredibly knowledgeable people here who can analyze the authenticity of a gun down to the microscopic level, and do to the propensity of fakes in our world, this is always a good idea. I prefer the "defarb" approach, because you are essentially getting a gun as issued, and there is no provenance you have to maintain, and you can shoot it with a clear conscience.
Oh I would definitely post photos on this site before I made a purchase, as there are many helpful and knowledgeable people on this site.

I have also strongly contemplated about buying just a reproduction and having it defarbed. That way at least if I ever did want to shoot it I could.

Thank you for your help.
 

kyle_kalasnik

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If you are looking for an original that is in collector grade condition I think nit wit is giving good advice to go to the auction houses or places that sell antique US military long guns. I have purchased several antique muskets from Dixie in the past, I found their appraisals to be good AND AND AND they offer an inspection policy. If you don't like it you can return it and just pay for the shipping (both ways). I would not buy a gun from this era without an inspection period or some damn fine photos showing the detail. I have been disappointed when I haven't done this.

Dixie has one and it is in very fine condition which is the lowest end of collector's grade.

Appreciate the advice, I’ll check out Dixie while I continue to still look around. I knew before hand from research and what have you that this was not going to be a simple process.
 

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I would also post this over on the AmericanLongrifles.org forum. When talking about "original" RevWar arms, there is some degree of latitude required. It is my understanding very few have survived in their original state.
I’ll check them out, I’ve never heard of the website before, thank you so much.
 

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If you are looking for an original that is in collector grade condition I think nit wit is giving good advice to go to the auction houses or places that sell antique US military long guns. I have purchased several antique muskets from Dixie in the past, I found their appraisals to be good AND AND AND they offer an inspection policy. If you don't like it you can return it and just pay for the shipping (both ways). I would not buy a gun from this era without an inspection period or some damn fine photos showing the detail. I have been disappointed when I haven't done this.

Dixie has one and it is in very fine condition which is the lowest end of collector's grade.

And, this one from Dixie is priced very well. A true wall hanger can be had for considerably less; but, this is in excellent shape.
 

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Good evening to all. I am in the process of looking to purchase a original Charleville Model 1763 or Brown Bess that was carried by American Troops, during the Revolutionary War.

I have found a few on other sites that are available. But I was just wondering if anyone here had one they would be willing to sell/trade or could point me in that direction.

I will not be shooting this as it’ll be a wall hanger.

Thank you all in advance. Take care.

Respectfully,
Kyle Kalasnik
Geeze, proving it was actually carried by troops during the War would be problematic. As an aside, all collecting fields have fakes and mis-representations. Military items in particular are prone to this practice, due in no small part to the heated, emotional urge collectors have to acquire such items. Some of the most famous militaria fakes to be exposed came from the hands of some of the very highest level dealers, the so-called blue blazer crowd from the rarified high dollar markets.
 

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Geeze, proving it was actually carried by troops during the War would be problematic. As an aside, all collecting fields have fakes and mis-representations. Military items in particular are prone to this practice, due in no small part to the heated, emotional urge collectors have to acquire such items. Some of the most famous militaria fakes to be exposed came from the hands of some of the very highest level dealers, the so-called blue blazer crowd from the rarified high dollar markets.
I agree with everything that you said. All of my research and so on is quickly becoming a pain in the neck.
 

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That might be a tall order to find one actually carried and used in the Revolution. Written provenance is essential.

Nearly every trapdoor you see around here was carried by Custer or Geronimo, according to its owner. If I had a dollar for every "Sam Bass" gun I have seen I could buy a new BMW.
 

kyle_kalasnik

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That might be a tall order to find one actually carried and used in the Revolution. Written provenance is essential.

Nearly every trapdoor you see around here was carried by Custer or Geronimo, according to its owner. If I had a dollar for every "Sam Bass" gun I have seen I could buy a new BMW.
🤣, I have also held many firearms that were carried by famous/infamous people,🙄.

The written provenance is not a necessity, I would just like an authentic flintlock musket “wall hanger” that was around during the American Revolution.
 

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🤣, I have also held many firearms that were carried by famous/infamous people,🙄.

The written provenance is not a necessity, I would just like an authentic flintlock musket “wall hanger” that was around during the American Revolution.
A nice Rev War musket is pricey. One with proven provenance would be 3-4 times more costly, at least. Check our the new Rev War museum in Philadelphia if you ever get the chance.
 

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I would also post this over on the AmericanLongrifles.org forum. When talking about "original" RevWar arms, there is some degree of latitude required. It is my understanding very few have survived in their original state.
A Military Museum in Saratoga Springs, NY has a slew of Bess’s left from the Revolution. Many on display, and quite a few in the basement I’m told.
 

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