.50 CVA pistol

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  1. Mar 12, 2018 #1

    Adui

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    I recently saw one of these in a gun store priced at $89.00 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/547230/cva-kentucky-muzzleloading-pistol-50-caliber

    This one looks just like it.

    I didn't give it a thorough examination, but it looked unfired. In fact the only flaw I could fins was the idiot gun store clerk who showed it to me. In spite of my VERY carefully testing the trigger and then letting the hammer set gently on the nipple he cocks it, snaps the hammer down, then puts it away... :cursing:

    Is it as good a price as i think?
     
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    I would take it at that price, even if you found that you didn't like it there is still room to make a little coin on a re-sell
     
  3. Mar 12, 2018 #3

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    Thats what I thought. Had I the coin when I saw it Id be asking retroactively. alas i get paid Thursday :) .

    I intend to go buy it this weekend, if not before. I must confess an ulterior motive though. it's the style pistol my son is interested in learning to shoot. Why isn't important here, just suffice it to say he's not much of a gun person in general but if this is a way to connect us a little better I'm buying it. If it works, its his when he decides he's hooked. if not; I get another muzzle loader to add to my collection!

    Either way i get to spend some quality time with a young man whom I must admit to have neglected valuable times when he was growing up.
     
  4. Mar 12, 2018 #4

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    After you buy the pistol slap that salesperson for me will ya' :haha:
     
  5. Mar 12, 2018 #5

    don hepler

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    I bought one just like it, at a pawn shop. About the same price, as well as I can remember.

    It shoots as good as my custom. In fact it shoots better than most of my revolvers.

    Mine could use a refinishing job. Someone on the forum, did a beautiful re-do, on one of these, just recently.
     
  6. Mar 12, 2018 #6

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    Fair price. I have a Traditions model, for all purposes the same gun. Very accurate with 20 grains ffg.
     
  7. Mar 12, 2018 #7

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    :td: Its a rip off. Dont go back.

    :redface: Where was that gun again?

    :rotf: Better snatch it up, I have one and they are a hoot, can be VERY accurate.
     
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    Don

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    Have the exact same gun. Great shooter and that's a great price, nab it!

    Don
     
  9. Mar 12, 2018 #9

    Adui

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    Sounds like I need to get back over to that shop pronto. Too many of you live here in the valley!

    I'm going to snatch it up this weekend if not before. Might just have the wife go by Thursday, (payday) and grab it since they close before I could get there during the eek from work.
     
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    As a matter of Fact I have a Brother and a Son in your neck of the woods if you share that location :grin:
     
  11. Mar 12, 2018 #11

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    I would ask if it has a bridle over the tumbler, and a fly in the tumbler. Early CVA locks didn’t always have them. You could get them in the kit, but they were a couple of dollars more.

    What does the side plate look like ? Is it two washer type escutcheons, or a long single piece of brass ?
     
  12. Mar 13, 2018 #12

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    They aren't going to know what I'm talking about if I ask that. I'd have to get permission to pull the lock; and that is about unlikely.

    I'm going to buy it Thursday. Even if the lock doesn't have those parts I know it works, and I know its got a decent trigger.
     
  13. Mar 13, 2018 #13

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    there is no fly in that lock. It is better than their earliest locks, but not a great deal better.
     
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    Those locks need to be lubricated well before use. My experience with them is that they have trouble busting caps after a few shots. Fowling must get into the lock works and slow things down. Now I spray Ballistol on the lock works prior to shooting and have zero issues.

    Don
     
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    Never had a problem like that with a cva lock of that model. I did have one that had a tumbler that scraped on the plate with it's tip. a few strokes on a wet stone took care of that problem.
     
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    My experience also.
     
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    Yes, a couple of my locks have the same issue and I have had to take them apart and work on the friction spots. Even afterwards lubing them seems to help their reliability.

    Don
     
  18. Mar 15, 2018 #18

    Adui

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    I'm picking it up today (assuming it passes my final inspection). Ive never had any handguns in anything but .36 caliber. This is a .50


    Im assuming my .490 round ball and tight patch combo will work as well in this as it does my rifle, but I am prepared to go with a thinner patch if I find loading is a strain.

    That said, my reading suggests that 45 grains is a max load, and 20-25 is the so called optimum load. (I know I will need to find that myself)
    What would those of you who have fired a muzzleloading pistol in .50 cal use as a STARTING load?
     
  19. Mar 16, 2018 #19

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    I have a Lyman Plains Pistol and a CVA Mountain Pistol both in .50 cal. A rifle tight patch is not needed and is a real pain if you don't have a loading stand. I go with a .015 pillow ticking patch, 20 gr. fffg and a .490 ball.

    On my Lyman I have used 20 gr. fffg and a .018 muslin patch and can hit an 8" steel target at 40 yd with authority. Lot's of fun for plinking.
     
  20. Mar 16, 2018 #20

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    I have a Lyman plains pistol in .50 and have always used 30g of 3f. I did a lot of reading around here and other sites and 30 seemed to be a popular load. I once hit 3 out of 12 charcoal briquettes glued to cardboard at 40 yards offhand. In high winds, with the Sun in my eyes, bare foot, in the snow.... :grin:
     

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