2nd bag build w/antler ball starter

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  1. Jan 21, 2020 #1

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    As often is the case, doing something a second time means it goes a bit easier for me. This is my second hunter’s bag build. This one from oil-tanned leather in a dark brown color, versus my first build made from veg-tanned, then built and then stained. I admit that the oil tanned is more supple and easier to work with.

    I inserted welting again this time, which required complimentary staining that piece. I also altered my pattern so that the back piece is also the front flap. I did insert a gusset again, which adds complexity but I think is totally worth it for the look and I like the shape & size. I also sewed in a little “holster” for the self-made antler ball starter.

    I have a leather strap ready to sew on, but I also ordered a hand-woven strap that I may use instead.

    My designs are simple, and my stitch work is far from perfect, but I truly enjoy making these for my own use.

    Pics of bag (Brow tine button):
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    Antler ball starter:
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    A little hard to see, but on one end of the antler handle, I formed a concave indentation to start the ball, and in the other end I drilled out enough marrow for 90gr of powder.
     

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    Nice bag. Well done. That big antler starter doesn't get in the way reaching in the bag for other things?
     
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    Thank you. Actually, the antler has a bit of a curve to it, and while I haven’t hung the bag formally with a shoulder strap yet, it seems like it will be out of the way while in its holster. It isn’t as big as it looks in the photos either—I think there’s a bit of an optical illusion going on with the picture angles.
     
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    Nice. I think I'm throw my hat in the leather making ring soon. Looking at all the thing you folks are making is giving me an itch for it.
     
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    What are you using for thread to stitch with?
     
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    Nice work , I like it!
     
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    Wax coated braided thread... from Tandy.
     
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    Do it! I got my start using this book:

    Recreating the 18th Century Hunting Pouch https://www.amazon.com/dp/0976579715/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_KnXjEbDDS96MR

    This is nicely illustrated and has patterns in the back. I found the patterns to be a little on the small side (I suspect limited by the size of the book pages), but it’s easy enough to enlarge them or creat your own.
     
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    I have made a few antler ball starters in the past. I make a powder measure in one end so the item has a two fold purpose. Powder measure & ball starter all in one. Just one less item to carry in one's bag.
     
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    I just made the same a while back, antler short starter that is. Instead of a powder measure hole though, I drilled a hole in one end so that the handle can be used as a palm saver (my PRB combo is fairly tight). It is deep enough that a little torque can be applied to it and it will also pull the rod back out of the bore nicely when swabbing. I know the hole isn't deep enough to hold a full charge, but perhaps I could modify it to hold a 1/2 charge? Good thought. Then I'd have a short starter, powder measure, and palm saver in one. For the nub to start the PRB into the barrel I set the head of a modified unmentionable case into the side of the antler.
     
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    Go for it!!

    One of the most often mistakes of stitching leather when folks begin is the fact they don't know how to make those nice, clean, uniformly repeatable stitches. I didn't know it when I began, but discovered it along the way, as I did not do a leather working apprenticeship and did not have a mentor close by to help me. I had sewn a line of those nice stitches and then had to figure out how I did it. Simply put one thread from one side has to go over the other thread every stitch. In case that is as clear as mud, the following is a great video by Neil Armitage on saddle stitching. BTW, Neil has many videos and I try to watch all of them, they are that good!



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    Awesome, thank you Gus.
     
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    You are most welcome.

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    TXFlynHog,

    Looks like you are improving!

    BTW, is the flap inside the pouch at the bottom or is it just the way it seems from the pics?

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    Very cool, all around. :thumb:
     
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    Nice work with traditional materials.
     
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    Thank you Gus. A compliment from you means a lot to me!

    I’m not sure I follow your question though... I did make a “holster” of sorts for the ball starter. It is literally just a rectangle piece of leather sewn town on each of the longer sides in such a manner that the ball starter fits snuggly through the middle. Is that what you are referring to?
     
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    I tried one of those stitch punches a few times, but ultimately gave up on it because I prefer to kind of poke & sew as I go, holding various pieces in all sorts of contortions. The punch just never seems to be practical to me... but my stitch lines certainly aren’t as straight as I wish I could do!
     
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    Hey TX? Is this a multiple 'thread' (pun intended) if so it might 'string' out a bit. Mind if I chime in with something I made a couple weeks ago or would it be easier to find things with a new thread?
     
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    My eyes must be focusing better today as I see the bottom of the flap, or "the back" if the flap was a separate piece, is rolling inward: but I think that is due to the softness of the leather. So I just answered my own question, but thank you for asking.

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