1860 Army #10 caps CCI, Slix-Shot nipples

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  1. Mar 30, 2019 #1

    olddoggy2

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    Good day to all.
    I have a Uberti 1860 Amy and put a set of SLiX- Shot nipples on it. Slix -Shot says on their package of nipples to use #10 Rem ONLY, I cant find Remington so I tried #10 CCI and they well not fit, how ever #11 CCI fit fine.
    Is this common?

    Thanks
     
  2. Mar 30, 2019 #2

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    Sorry guys, I just found the answer to my question.
    Should have done my home work before I ordered 1000 #10 CCI nipples.

    "SliX-Shot Nipples are designed Primarily for use with Remington #10 caps. Most CCI #11 and #11 Magnums work also. Available for Uberti, Pietta, Ruger Old Army, Walker and Dragoon percussion revolvers: .36, .44 and .45 Caliber. 1851 through 1861 Models."
     
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    Yes, sure, 11's will fit almost all nipples for 10 caps. But you should be able to push 10 CCI's to seat. The metal is thin and will expand. I have not found any difference between 10 and 11 Rems to worry about.
     
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    Roger that, I would like to try on an unloaded cylinder fist, worried how much pressure it takes to set off a cap. My plan is to unload the revolver with the #11s and try a few #10s on an unloaded revolver so I can get the feel for them.
     
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    I doubt , that with thumb pressure , you will be able to ignite any cap by pushing them on the nipple.

    Now pushing them with a wood stick might but I would doubt this as well. These caps take a bit of pressure to set them off.

    Another thing that has been done to fit available caps on nipples is to GENTLY put the threaded portion in a drill motor and tighten the chuck FINGER tight , now as the drill is turning kinda slowly , take a finger nail emery board and just lightly sand the cone , gently and stopping often to try your cap , just when it fits snugly STOP. I have done this a few times with huge success.

    My experience with factory nipples is that often as not , they are short , making firing chancy at best. Like you I have had the need to buy after market nipples to make them run reliably. I am picky so I always test my caps that I can get [ mostly CCI ] on the nipples. This always pays dividends for future reliability.

    Good luck with your '60' , have fun!
     
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    Thanks for you help. The #10 caps seem to be so tight as it would take a hammer to get them to set, if I hadn't loaded the revolver before I tried the nipples I would find out just how much pressure it takes, and that is what I intend to do after I make the revolver Safe, any way i still had a good day at the range, 50 rounds with my Smith carbine made it a good day after all.
     
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    CapSizes.jpg For future reference
     
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    Thanks for the chart. Great reference.
     
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    Something that may calm your concerns:

    A few years ago I did a little experiment with caps. I wanted to find out just how much pressure it would take to get them to fire so, I got out my Vise-Grip's and a tin of new caps.

    Placing a #11 cap between the jaws of the Vise-Grips I crushed it completely flat. This is with the cap laying on its side so the priming mixture would be totally crushed in the process. It did not pop.

    I repeated this with about 5 more caps and none of them fired.

    Figuring that maybe the serriations on the jaws of the locking pliers wasn't fully crushing the priming mixture I next used my bench vise to crush some more caps.
    Same result after crushing several more caps. Even though they were crushed totally flat, none of them fired.

    Now, when I say I crushed them, I mean, I REALLY crushed them. Flat as a pancake.

    Now, to rule out the idea that maybe these caps were defective, I layed each of them on the flat anvil surface of the vise, I hit them with a small metal hammer.
    Each one of them fired.

    From this I've decided that the priming mixture in a percussion cap will only fire when it is crushed with a sudden impact like the falling hammer on a gun (or a whack of a hammer on it laying on a vise).
     
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    That's good info.
    Thank you Sir
     
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    Thanks for the input and testing...
     
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    The 10 Remingtons fit perfectly. I also tried pushing 10 CCI caps on and it took a lot of force to get them on far enough so the cylinder would turn.
     
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    Yes Sir, I think the #10s will work they just need a little persuading, more then im used to with a live chamber. Will make darn sure my fingers stay out of the way of the chambers when loading.
     
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    I have a few tins of cci 10’s I should sell. The Remington 10’s fit perfectly and work reliably.
     
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    Might hold on th the CCI, seems at least for me the Remingtons are hard if not impossible to find.
     
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    It sounds like this is your first use of a black powder revolver as you state that you have load it and then found that the caps did not fit. I learned with my first revolver back in the early '80's to always clear the nipples with one round of caps before loading. This way, you clear put any oils etc. that may have accumulated / dried in there from your cleaning which could cause issues. I would do this with a brand new gun also. Just a thought. It also helps as you make sure that the gun is working properly before loading.
     
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    Agree totally. Much to my dismay this is not my first time with blackpowder revolvers, that was sometime back in the late 70s, I had just trusted that the caps would fit, and your 100% correct should have tryed after I installed the new nipples, before going to the range. The factory one worked fine, and I had no idea of the size difference in caps, I just wanted to try something new.
    Lesson learned .....
     
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    Darn it! I’m down to 8 or 9 hundred. Hopefully they’ll become available again, or if not I’ll go back to RWS.
     
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    take a new pencil.....cut the eraser off flush with the metal connector ring top......you've just made the worlds safest cap seater ! (using the rubber end to push)
     
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    Here is a great article on caps and cones (nipples). Lots of great CAD images. I love the SliXShot nipples on my Walker! I use #10 Remington caps, but I believe the #11. CCI will work, as is stated on Badmans Bullets web sight.

    http://www.theopenrange.net/forum/index.php?topic=9093.0
     
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